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    Lean Ground Beef on Cutting Diet?

    Can i use 90% lean ground beef on a cutting diet?
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    if it fits in your macros, yes. I doubt you are running a no fat diet. just take some of the fat grams out of other places in your diet and eat this if you're that concerned

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacked121 View Post
    Can i use 90% lean ground beef on a cutting diet?
    this should be in the nutrition section but yea why not i like lean grass fed beef

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    Ok thanks for replies, can i eat it everyday or only a few days a week?

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    Ok thanks for replies, can i eat it everyday or only a few days a week?

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    Try and find 95% if you can, always cook mine about half way done till the pan is loaded with grease, strain it all, cook it again...then stick it on paper towel and get anymore grease off.

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    As stated earlier, if you can fit it into your macros, then absolutely. Personally, I wouldn't be able to fit 90/10 without having to modify other meals, so I opt for 95/5.

    As far as how frequently to eat it - that's completely up to you, there are no rules. I eat beef (either 95/5 ground or top sirloin, sometimes both) at least once a day.

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    I don't understand why people buy lean mince beef, its pricey over here in the UK, for the same price I would much rather buy a tray of steak. It's a easy decision for me, steak or ground beef? Know which one im choosing Don't know if ground beef is cheap to buy over there in the states?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 951thompson
    I don't understand why people buy lean mince beef, its pricey over here in the UK, for the same price I would much rather buy a tray of steak. It's a easy decision for me, steak or ground beef? Know which one im choosing Don't know if ground beef is cheap to buy over there in the states?
    Nah, it's relatively expensive here too, especially leaner varieties. For me, I like the flexibility vs. steak. e.g. I eat it with pasta and sauce, rice and beans, etc. Lots of options, and that's what keeps dieting from being boring. Steak, as much as I love it, is simply... steak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbrice75 View Post

    Nah, it's relatively expensive here too, especially leaner varieties. For me, I like the flexibility vs. steak. e.g. I eat it with pasta and sauce, rice and beans, etc. Lots of options, and that's what keeps dieting from being boring. Steak, as much as I love it, is simply... steak.
    Yeah I get what you mean, I like making burgers with it, You can make steak interesting too tho, I like to make curries with it, stir fry, stews, kababs ect,

    All this talk is making me hungry, not a good subject to talk about when your on a diet consuming only 1200cal lol

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    Ok sounds good guys, i need more fats here is my layout, any suggestions what to add

    Calories:1,859 Carbs:33 Fat:77 Protein: 266

    meal 1- 1/2 Cup Egg Whites+ 1 scoop whey protein

    meal 2 - 2 scoops whey protein ( PWO )

    meal 3 - 8oz chicken breast +1 tbsp of ANPB

    meal 4 - 2 scoops whey protein + 1 tbsp of ANPB

    meal 5 - 8oz ground lean beef w/Avacado & broccoli 1/2 cup

    meal 6 - Talapia + 2 tbsp ANPB

    Snack: Almonds
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    Quote Originally Posted by 951thompson
    I don't understand why people buy lean mince beef, its pricey over here in the UK, for the same price I would much rather buy a tray of steak. It's a easy decision for me, steak or ground beef? Know which one im choosing Don't know if ground beef is cheap to buy over there in the states?
    1.5kg (over 3lbs) for £10 ($16) and that's 96/4. You think that is pricey? 22g pro and 4.5g fat per 100g.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacked121
    Ok sounds good guys, i need more fats here is my layout, any suggestions what to add

    Calories Carbs Fat Protein Sodium Sugar

    1,859 33 77 266 958 10

    meal 1- 1/2 Cup Egg Whites+ 1 scoop whey protein

    meal 2 - 2 scoops whey protein ( PWO )

    meal 3 - 8oz chicken breast +1 tsp of ANPB

    meal 4 - 2 scoops whey protein + 1 tsp of ANPB

    meal 5 - 8oz ground lean beef w/Avacado & broccoli 1/2 cup

    meal 6 - Talapia + 2 tsp ANPB
    Snack: Almonds
    Are you running a keto diet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
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    Ummm...that'd be a turkey. Cows say MOO!!!!

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    I eat it all the time.

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    I'm going for low carbs high fat and high protein
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacked121
    I'm going for low cabs high fat and high protein
    Is that a yes, keto?

    What is your desired macro split and your stats?
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    I eat so much turkey its ridiculous
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    Yes i am going for keto, Height 5'10 Weight: 180 Bf: 9% Age: 23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacked121
    Yes i'm going for a keto, Height 5'10 Weight: 180 Bf: 9% Age: 23
    Can I ask why keto?

    Planned macro split?

    Carb load plans?

    Style of training?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post

    1.5kg (over 3lbs) for £10 ($16) and that's 96/4. You think that is pricey? 22g pro and 4.5g fat per 100g.
    Yeah I do, you can get a kg frying steak for £5, where are you buying yours from because its much more expensive in Tesco. It's like £5 for a 250g pack. It's a rip off imo. For that price it would be cheaper to buy steak and mince it up yourself in a blender.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slfmade View Post

    Ummm...that'd be a turkey. Cows say MOO!!!!
    Yup. And that's my recommendation.
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    I wonder how much leaner it gets by draining fat and or putting it out on a towel, etc. It'd be nice to be able to buy 85% and drain it to come up with 90+. Any ideas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oatmeal69 View Post
    I wonder how much leaner it gets by draining fat and or putting it out on a towel, etc. It'd be nice to be able to buy 85% and drain it to come up with 90+. Any ideas?
    Yeah cook it on a Forman grill does the trick, thing is I don't like doing it, because you can't accurately count the micros.

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    Wonder if you could do it by weight somehow...

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    Quote Originally Posted by oatmeal69;6469***
    Wonder if you could do it by weight somehow...
    Possibley, maybe worth a google search?

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    I think you'd need to boil off the water and just weigh the fat/oil or something.

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    A 1994 University of Minnesota study found that draining cooked ground beef reduced fat content by 31 percent to 35 percent. The study further found that rinsing the meat with hot water reduced the fat content yet again by 25 percent to 30 percent.

    Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/53...#ixzz2OrAEKNMB

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    Quote Originally Posted by oatmeal69 View Post
    A 1994 University of Minnesota study found that draining cooked ground beef reduced fat content by 31 percent to 35 percent. The study further found that rinsing the meat with hot water reduced the fat content yet again by 25 percent to 30 percent.

    Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/53...#ixzz2OrAEKNMB
    Interesting, it's tricky to gage cos foods tend to weigh different when raw and cooked. so it's very tricky to track micros,I guess you could probably get away with it if your bulking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 951thompson

    Yeah I do, you can get a kg frying steak for £5, where are you buying yours from because its much more expensive in Tesco. It's like £5 for a 250g pack. It's a rip off imo. For that price it would be cheaper to buy steak and mince it up yourself in a blender.
    Sainsburys. Extra lean 1.5kg for a tenner. That's good value in my book I don't have to mince or chop or wash up. Or buy an appropriate blender
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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post

    Sainsburys. Extra lean 1.5kg for a tenner. That's good value in my book I don't have to mince or chop or wash up. Or buy an appropriate blender
    I don't understand why it's more expensive, it's the same meat as steak, so dont see why it's more expensive. I prefer eating steak Tbh, in things like chilli, curry, stir fry or just plain, I love it any which way lol

    They should start selling that French horse mince, id buy it

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    I'd buy horse too, if it was cost effective.

    What's the macro's on the steak you buy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    I'd buy horse too, if it was cost effective.

    What's the macro's on the steak you buy?
    130g serving is 235cal 38g protein 0g carb 9g fat

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    Quote Originally Posted by 951thompson

    130g serving is 235cal 38g protein 0g carb 9g fat
    Arguably a higher fat content than my mince. They are cooked macro's though.

    I do occasionally buy organic casserole steak and mince it myself, but the wastage in the mincer makes it not very cost effective at all
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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post

    Arguably a higher fat content than my mince. They are cooked macro's though.

    I do occasionally buy organic casserole steak and mince it myself, but the wastage in the mincer makes it not very cost effective at all
    I got those nutrition stats off myfittnesspal, If you trim the fat off you will be cool, when I make chillie I like to just dice it up fine with a knife.
    Tho I do like abit of ground beef now and again for making burgers, but I begrudge paying the prices they charge at Tesco.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 951thompson

    I got those nutrition stats off myfittnesspal, If you trim the fat off you will be cool, when I make chillie I like to just dice it up fine with a knife.
    Tho I do like abit of ground beef now and again for making burgers, but I begrudge paying the prices they charge at Tesco.
    Fair enough mate, I'm gonna stick with my mince. It's cheaper than most chicken!
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    Quote Originally Posted by oatmeal69 View Post
    A 1994 University of Minnesota study found that draining cooked ground beef reduced fat content by 31 percent to 35 percent. The study further found that rinsing the meat with hot water reduced the fat content yet again by 25 percent to 30 percent.

    Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/53...#ixzz2OrAEKNMB
    i have not run the numbers myself, and i don't want to take the time to look up the article (which is from several years ago and therefore, numbers may not be the same) where i read it, BUT...

    apparently the cost per gram of protein is lower if you buy "fattier" ground beef (say 70/30) and drain and rinse it before eating, versus buying the "leaner" ground beef (say 95-5). how much cheaper? i don't know. i suppose that would vary from place to place and from time to time.

    and, how much "fussing" is required to save that money and is that worth it to you?

    and, i would imagine it would make your calculations for macros less precise.

    but it is CHEAPER.

    just saying...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post

    Fair enough mate, I'm gonna stick with my mince. It's cheaper than most chicken!
    I get a 1kg of frozen chicken Breast from herons frozen foods for £4, don't know if you have one of those shops near you, they are on every high street in hull.

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    I drain it anyway but it does make sense that you really aren't saving a lot if you rinse/drain the fat from less lean meat. Damn this hobby is expensive!!

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