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01-16-2018, 10:55 PM #1New Member
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Protein per meal?
Hi guys, I'm not on a cycle, but recently heard that the body can only process approx. 30g of protein per meal.
Would you agree with that?
How long after protein consumption should I wait before consuming more?
Also, I've read the max protein I should consume per day it's between .75 - 1g /per lb. of bodyweight that I would like to weigh.
Would you agree with that?
Any insight is appreciated. Thx!
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There is a lot of conflicting data on how much a person can assimilate at one time and how much you actually need per day. I think pre and post workout you should definitely shoot for 20-40 gr of protien. You want to have Free Aminos floating around so your body can have a steady supply.
Mainly listen to your body and see how you respond. It’s really trial and error since we are all so different.“If you can't explain it to a second grader, you probably don't understand it yourself.” Albert Einstein
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01-16-2018, 11:43 PM #3BANNED
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way to blanket of a statement to be considered true, and anyone that would advocate that across the board doesn't understand human biology.
a 300 pound open class body builder can assimilate a whole hell of a lot more protein in a single meal then can a 100 pound bikini competitor.
also consider meal timing.. if the 300lb bodybuilder ate 3 meals per day and was capped at only 30g of protein per meal, then thats only 90g of protein per day, which is way insufficient.
also consider protein source .. a 12 ounce steak contains about 90g of protein. your going to eat that in a single serving, does that mean your just going to put 60g of that protein to waste? is the biggest steak we should eat only 3 oz? no , its steak with fat in the meat as well (fat slows down digestion). that steak is going to take a good 8 hours to digest , and during that 8 hours your body is slowly trickling in protein and amino acids into the blood stream. So your getting like 11g of protein per hour. you body will assimilate and put that to use.
Also consider that the body is NOT restricted to using dietary protein as strictly protein (amino acids), its capable of using that protein for energy or stored energy. if amino acids are not needed for building cells, then through the process of gluconeogenisis (by the liver) your body will take that extra protein and convert it into Glucose (Carbs) to be used as an energy source.. if glycogen is not needed either, then the protein will be converted to glucose then to fatty acids and stored as body fat.
believe me, your body will find a whole bunch of ways to make use of excess protein and we are not limited at all to 30g of protein in a single serving.
look at nature, look at the lion or the great white shark . it may only consume 1-2 meals every couple weeks, and that one meal may consist of 100s of pounds or protein in one meal. and those fuckers get super huge and muscular and find a way to make use of all that protein in a single serving.
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01-22-2018, 05:34 AM #4
Hello.
I believe a good ratio for macronutrients for most meals is a 3-2-1 ratio. That is, Carbs-protein-fat, in the said ratio...
Concerning the max protein able to be digested... It is hard to say. For myself, I don't see much point in going above 50g of protein for any given meal. Really, 1g of protein for 1lb of weight is considered a good rule of thumb for bodybuilders though I have heard experts say both less and more may be ideal.
This is not an exact science and you'll be best served to toy with it and listen/watch your body
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01-22-2018, 11:09 AM #5Associate Member
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My body knows when I’ve had too much protein in one sitting, that’s when i back it off. I don’t do anymore than 50g in a meal
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01-22-2018, 09:58 PM #8Associate Member
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Haha, you do make a valid point.
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01-24-2018, 01:58 AM #9Junior Member
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01-24-2018, 09:15 AM #10
I agree with several posts. I shoot for 1.2g per pound on a normal day. When cutting I hit 1.4-1.5. Sometimes I will cut it down to 1g per lb on a rest day and go higher carb.
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20 grams of protein !?? thats it, per meal ? Do you know how little amount of protein that actually is? thats only 3 tiny little oz of chicken . 7g of protein per 1oz of chicken.
I can just see going to a restaurant and ordering "please give me just a few bites of steak please .. and a salad" , "why only a few bites sir",, "cause any more then a few bites will turn to ammonia and eventually kill me"..
20 grams is a ridiculously low amount of protein . way way way to low for a bodybuilder, and even way to low for your average house wife. Almost anyone can put down a 12oz steak in a single seating which is roughly 90g of protein.
is 90g too much in one seating . NO. your body doesn't just suddenly absorb that 90g of protein in 5mins and it enters the blood stream and then turns to ammonia. Its slowly breaks down that protein over a period of 8-12 hours and slowly releases proteins into the blood stream so your body can utilize it.
We've survived and thrived for millions of years on this planet eating a shit ton of protein. our bodies are designed and equipped to properly utilize it being it is the most essential macro nutrient we need to survive.
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I would love to reply, but something about the spam software is blocking me from saying what i want. I'm not using any crazy trigger words, but i'm a "new" member so idk.
*Nevermind, i was trying to use the "at" symbol to reference specific users and that's why it blocked me.Last edited by Randomaxe; 01-24-2018 at 10:10 PM.
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GearHeaded I'm asking specifically about your body's ability to process the protein into muscle. At how many grams does the body start using that protein for something besides muscle synthesis?
BrockBadger is saying you can eat again in 2 hrs, so i take it that means after 2 hrs your body has finished processing that protein into muscle and is ready for more.
*Side note, i need to fix up my diet and don't have access to gear anyway. I will be pushing for a low carb diet, but i would like to maximise protein synthesis without spilling over into gluconeogenesis.
Thx!
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I’m treading that very fine line with my Keto cut.
I’ve found if I take in to much whey protein I will get kicked out of ketosis. So I’m basically having one 25g scoop before my workout. My total carb intake per day is usually around 20 gr, 30 at the high end. And getting in about .8 grams of protien per pound each day. If I get into the 1gr a day or over, it appears that kicks me out of ketosis.“If you can't explain it to a second grader, you probably don't understand it yourself.” Albert Einstein
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01-24-2018, 11:35 PM #15Associate Member
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My keto situation was almost exactly how MS explains his. If i ate more meat protein, or protein from food rather my body would stay in ketosis easier. Whey protein seemed to be too much for my body. I would recommend going no higher than 1gr but that’s a baseline. You will need to test your blood or urine ketones.
To answer the original post again, there is multiple factors on how much protein someone can digest. And i think they are most likely differnt for everyone.
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it doesn't work that way . you don't take in protein , your body uses up all that protein, and is then ready for more 2 hours later... its a constant process.
the body is breaking down and digesting protein, and then assimilating it, and using it on a 24 hour basis. and its for more then just muscle. so it does not really matter if you have 90 grams of protein in a single meal from a steak, or 20g every 2 hours. that steak is going to be slowly assimilated over hours and hours and your body gets what it needs.
within reason there is no such thing as "too much" protein in a single serving. and if there is excess, then through the process of gluconeogenisis, those amino acids will be converted into glucose and used as fuel (a very non efficient and tedious and expensive way to get glucose ,, but its there none the less).
so I wouldn't worry about getting too much protein in a single serving. your body will use it just fine. the only persons that need to worry about that are those who are doing Keto and want to stay in Ketosis (as mentioned above) . but Keto is a high fat diet, not a high protein diet. Protein needs to be kept minimal on keto , 0.6 gram or so per pound of body weight.
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