Guys that want to gain 25+lbs per cycle.

[Dukkit]

*sniff sniff* this is a beautiful thread.

[Viggo]

Insightful read.

Funny, I can remember those obviously roided jack-asses from high school. Something to prove.

I am now 39 and training hard for years. Competed twice in past two yrs but have found the goal of becoming a lean 210 lbs nearly unattainable.
Decided to use AAS.
Now in week 10 of cycle and have been discouraged at a mere 10 lbs of gain.
It appears that I shouldn't be. Small steps of quality gains.

[warlord_wang]

Good video to watch for those that want it.

Love this video. its the best

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kf6r0D3SEA

I've watched that video about 50 times today.The message in that video transcends body building & applies to every aspect of life. Might sound odd or stupid but that video really changed my life

[karen]

good post

[boz]

I've watched that video about 50 times today.The message in that video transcends body building & applies to every aspect of life. Might sound odd or stupid but that video really changed my life

Powerful stuff that clip, very deep. 1st time watcher here, it did make me tingle lol

[Sir Anabolic]

This cleared a lot up. Great advice. I'm going to back off for now as suggested.

[covert025]

This is an awesome thread.
I am on my first cycle and I was wondering why I was only up +10-11lbs towards the end of my cycle when I see people talking about gaining 25-30lb on their first cycle. My diet was not the problem either, I was eating quality food and plenty of it.

I guess I am in the average gain range. Feels good to know.

[warlord_wang]

Whos the guy at 1:35-1:40?

[dav1dg90]

Great post learned alot bro

[dt725]

I appreciate the message, thanks

[warlord_wang]

Whos the guy at 1:35-1:40?

nobody know?

[Scrappy11]

Bump

Best post I've read in a while!

[HawaiianPride.]

nobody know?

johnny jackson. just placed 3rd at grand prix and 7th at the arnold. he trains at my gym with branch.

[terraj]

Whos the guy at 1:35-1:40?

Thats lee labrada

[HawaiianPride.]

Thats lee labrada

i stand corrected, JJ was right before him.

[Dominick0221]

Good read!

[Tay-boe]

Great post bro.

[HawaiianPride.]

Great post bro.

Thanks TB

[tigerspawn]

Bump

[Doom44]

Good read

[Live for the PUMP]

Someone brought this out of the wood works.. What a great post that makes 100% sense.

[Enfermo]

good stuff

[BBJT200]

Great point, i think too many people are expecting steroids to 'magically' put on 25 lbs every time. it's not dosage dependent, it just takes time!

[Java Man]

Excellent writing and reading. Glad to see this old post got bumped. So true and although the posers mentioned obviously can't be helped, if this causes even one person to build the foundation first instead of jumping on juice it's worth the time it took to write it. I so wish there was a resource like this available when I got started with lifting. I have managed to.gain 80lbs over the years and kept it, but I started too early and yo-yo'd in weight the first few years. only after a seasoned gym rat told me I want ready and showed me how to build that foundation did I realize why. I wasted a lot of time, money, and could have screwed up my health. Luckily I didn't do the latter.

[Granovich]

good thread. not always accurate cuz i have seen few guys who gained 20 lbs in cycle and kept almost all of it after pct. lost some definition as its very normal but definitetly kept 80% or size atleast. it all comes down to determination, diet habbits and how hard you train and sleep... HGH helps too

[Granovich]

double post

[BunkerPunk]

No BS, I like it. Well said, great read.

[littlemansyndrome]

Great post really telling the truth in the matter,
70% of the people online reading this got angry,
But all of the people who have been around aas for years know this happens
It's better to search for slower keep able gains than extreme puff come and go lbs

[turkeybacon]

So true

[TJ413]

Great read! I, myself am planning on doing a cycle one day but not until I'm educated n ready

[kawasaki]

Fantastic and so true

[Megalodon6]

Good read

[thomasfreddy]

I'm 40 prob done 5 cycles sinse I was
32ish
Not done anything for last 2 years
The reason I'm having another go
Is cos I stop drinking while cycling
That means I'm not sniffing coke either
3 months clean no drunk coke or shit
Food ..... Plus my natural levels of test
Are dropping so right now I feel sexy and
Strong
500 mg test e pw
150 tren ace pw split mon tue wed
Test e 12 weeks
Tren ace first 6-8 weeks
Nolva 2 weeks after last jab
40/40/20/20

[thomasfreddy]

I'm 40 prob done 5 cycles sinse I was
32ish
Not done anything for last 2 years
The reason I'm having another go
Is cos I stop drinking while cycling
That means I'm not sniffing coke either
3 months clean no drunk coke or shit
Food ..... Plus my natural levels of test
Are dropping so right now I feel sexy and
Strong
500 mg test e pw
150 tren ace pw split mon tue wed
Test e 12 weeks
Tren ace first 6-8 weeks
Nolva 2 weeks after last jab
40/40/20/20

[lovbyts]

Nice so you are trading one drug for another? Try staying clean, having a good diet and being in the gym for a good 3 years before using ANY aas or anything. No one is really going to help you here at this point because you arent helping yourself with this attitude.
3 months being clean is a nothing and you are right at the normal falling off the train stage. Fix your life and habit before starting something else. The gym is a good place to start but using any aas isnt.

[thomasfreddy]

Been training for 15 years ... Im a healthy
Eater when I get my mind to it
Cholesterol is low (below 4 )
I use coke once a month would not
Consider that a problem
Thanks for the reply

[lovbyts]

Well then I would not bother to mention it next time and besides that it's against the rules to talk about any recreational drugs use.

You should really start a new thread asking your cycle questions.

[thomasfreddy]

Ok mate I hear ya
Sorry to anyone who got offended
By my posts

[motivated247]

This is a great read! Bumped

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