Androgel 10's yeeehahhhh

[Teabagger]

Phew...what a journey. Nov. '05 had blood work done for T. by my primary MD. Came back low normal. He agreed to give me 200mg depot test (cyp) IM every 3 weeks, but no sooner and said I needed to see an endo or uro. I took the depot test every 3 weeks, supplementing with some Prop in near the end of the 2nd week and through the 3rd week until i could get my "fix". Jan. '06 had appointment with a urologist. He was cool, but wanted his own bloodwork done before prescribing anything. So...more bloodwork...same results..low normal, only this time my LH and FSH were near 0. Sooo, now he wanted me to see an endo, and have an MRI done of my pituitary. Enter a well renowned clinic (not HRT clinc). Mar. '06 met with endo. He wanted his own blood work, plus the MRI. MRI was fine. Bloodwork, for the 3rd time in 4 months showed low normal, I mean barely normal T. I waited for 3 weeks after my cyp shot and did not supplement with prop. So this dude says I fall in the normal range and he doesn't think I have hypogonadism. He can't explain the weight gain around my torso, the constant fatigue, being cranky and kind of depressed, no libido, mild ed, etc....but doesn't feel it is due to low test He wanted me to wait another 3 months with no T and do bloodwork again...I called bullshit...said no to his reccomendation and asked, or nearly demanded T. He caved and prescribed 2.5 Andorgel...little did I know this was just to placate me. I returned to my uro yesterday with the MRI results, he said you have low test, I just wanted to make sure there was not a tumor on your pituitary. He said 2.5 was worthless and prescribed 6 mos. of androgel 10!!! YeeHah. Now I'm not all jacked up about putting the gel on every day but I am cranking about the 10mgs of good ole T I'm gettin' every day. He doesn't need to see me again for 6 mos. then we do follow up bloodwork.

I guess the moral of the story is we, as men, really have to work to get HRT from the mainstream health care system, but it is worth it. I had also asked the endo about HGH and he scoffed and said HGH was a hormone looking for a job. Well I know from experience that is false. We have to take responsiblity for our own healthcare by educating our MD's and taking an active role in our treatment. Peace bros...

[Ufa]

Hard to advise some one as smart as you.

[zaggahamma]

TBagger...is that all your running right now is the 10 mg of gel? Curious I started with half that, but have samples and am doubling on heavier lifting days...waiting to get the same as you and wondering if that's gonna work for me alone....sounds like you have similar symptoms and similar levels...keep us updated if you can..thx

[Teabagger]

I have been on the 10 gram packets since last friday and already I am feeling a difference. More energy, better focus, less grumpy..and great wood If I were you I wouldn't double up just on lifting days..your blood levels will start to get wacky...up, then down, etc..thats not good. Have an appointment with your MD a few days before you will run out of 10 gr/day. Tell him/her that the 5's were not doing it for you, that you upped on your own to 10 and have started to feel much better. Don't talk about strength or lifting or working out...they'll freak and suspect you of trying to play them. Talk about energy, concentration, focus, mood, wood!!, sleep, etc...tell them how after 3 to 4 days of the 10 you began to notice positive changes in all those areas. Then by god demand the 10's if they hesitate. Good luck bro...stay persistent.

[ThrottleKing]

I'm going to mention to my endo that starting on the 5th day my energy and focus start to fade. I've noticed that I can almost feel my test level start to drop towards my dose day.

I'm going to try and move my schedule up one day and see if that improves my overall feelings.

[zaggahamma]

thanks for that info teabagger....didn't know that if the levels were up/down...it would be bad....but that's a great idea....and I see your point about how to mention the improvement and they will almost think they need to change the dose...HOPEFULLY...glad your doing good with the gel...been looking around the sight...it's not the most popular product ...but it seems some are happy with it...esp. you...really appreciate the advice
j

[zaggahamma]

oh...i forgot...teabagger....you didn't clarify if that is all your takin is the gel?

[Teabagger]

Just started this past monday with hgh again. 2 iu 5/2. The gel isn't too bad. It will become over time a pain in the ass to rub in that much gel every day, but hey, it beats the alternative. It does provide the most stable blood level from day to day for most guys though.

[zaggahamma]

yeh...that's what i was thinking too...having to cut open the packs...bet the pump would be easier...and I just read the insert from the androgel again...and it said that prostate incidents were 18.8 percent from the 10 g dose and only 5 from the 7.5....wondering if i should ask for 10, but do 7.5...i think i saw some guys saying they were happy with that dose, then i'll have some extras for when times are tougher...and also i'm still wondering why my leves went down from 298 to 140 AFTER using the gel for 14 days...maybe b cause i didn't dose b 4 doing that test that morning?

[gooroo]

how can we make our own? Like order powder (from where I am unsure yet) and make some cream. I know that the local pharmacy here whips there own up in a white pushout container.