Long Time HGH people only!

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[comradebillyboy]

Are you saying that your test levels as measured by blood work declined while you were taking HRT test injections? That raises some intresting issues about the desirability of cycling as part of an HRT program. I like to look at what I am doing as a longevity and quality of life program and I don't feel bound by a specific regimen. I can experiment to find the combination that gives me my best results.

Clearly, based on your descriptions of the way you use various products, you don't feel bound by any rigid protocol. I am most intrested in hearing how your new experiment works out.

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[spicyer]

What type of test were you on? If you were on for a year and a half and then did pct with gh and arimidex , depending on the esthers, especially if they were long then it is still in your sytem and you have not yet experienced the affects of coming off. 19 days is just not that long being off. Curious why you ask for long time HGH users, which is why I looked at the post to begin with. I can definetely speak alot better to long term HGH use. Hope I can help.

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[spicyer]

So if I read right you are dropping test injections to improve chances of no acne for the cruise? Are you taking the oral gh supplementation in addition to Saizen? Lastly, what was your total test level after your last appointment with the endo? I'm curious to see how far it went down after 19 days since injection. Also may I ask what type of test? I hope you don't mind sharing the info.

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[doublefister]

It is a fact that over time the effects of test will diminish like any other
drug. Do you find your self taking more; and, test levels going down. How
long do you have to stop HRT before test becomes as effective as it was
when you started. I know you are on for life and bla bla bla. However,
the facts are irrefutable.

I was on HRT for a year and a half. I've been off for 19 days. Wondering
if 3 months will be enough. By the way I feel great. Mild depression around day 14. It was short lived. PCT was GH and arimidex.

For a fact HRT isnt for life. I was diagnosed with low test levels earlier this year most likely due to prohormones that I took early last year. Doc put me on 100mg test cyp a week along with 500IU's of HCG a week, and I decided to start HGH. Was told to run the test for 3 months and then get off for a few weeks and see where my levels are at.

I decided to run PCT when I was done which was Nolvadex 40/30/20/20 and also ran some tribulus (Biotest AlphaMale). About 2 weeks after PCT I went in to get tested again and my results on everything came back normal. My test levels were in the 600's when before it was 282. My LH, FSH, SHBG, DHT, E2, Prolactin, and everything else was also all normal within range.

Doctor basically told me whatever Im doing keep doing it because Im looking great. Oh and I am also adding ZMA at night which has gaba in it and some DHEA which I will probably stop.

There have been some people on HRT for years and decided to start naturally again and just supplemented themselves with 20mg of Nolvadex everyday for a couple months and were able to get their levels in the 600 range.

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[doublefister]

Cool, glad things works out. Hope we both can hold out until stem cells
happen. Then we can live to be very old in style.

Yea the stem cell thing would be interesting. Hopefully, I live long enough to see it happen.

[comradebillyboy]

For a fact HRT isnt for life. I was diagnosed with low test levels earlier this year most likely due to prohormones that I took early last year. Doc put me on 100mg test cyp a week along with 500IU's of HCG a week, and I decided to start HGH. Was told to run the test for 3 months and then get off for a few weeks and see where my levels are at.

I decided to run PCT when I was done which was Nolvadex 40/30/20/20 and also ran some tribulus (Biotest AlphaMale). About 2 weeks after PCT I went in to get tested again and my results on everything came back normal. My test levels were in the 600's when before it was 282. My LH, FSH, SHBG, DHT, E2, Prolactin, and everything else was also all normal within range.

Doctor basically told me whatever Im doing keep doing it because Im looking great. Oh and I am also adding ZMA at night which has gaba in it and some DHEA which I will probably stop.

There have been some people on HRT for years and decided to start naturally again and just supplemented themselves with 20mg of Nolvadex everyday for a couple months and were able to get their levels in the 600 range.

Good work. Absolutist statements like "HRT is for life" shoulden't be taken too seriously. We can take responsibility for our own health and wellness and find what works best for us. We are all different and one person's remedy may not be best for everyone else.

[Spyke]

I always keep in mind that right now HRT is for life but I am 34 and hope to live another 50 or so years. (God willing)

I have no doubt that the treatments will change ALOT in the next 50 years so who knows what they will come up with in this area.

[zaggahamma]

Cool, glad things works out. Hope we both can hold out until stem cells
happen. Then we can live to be very old in style.

i've been meaning to research that more since you've been mentioning that and I am pretty ignorant on the subject even when it is/has been in the political view for a while...

did anyone happen to see bll romanowski on 60 minutes last nite...he mentioned injecting black sheep cells????

[try-n]

34 and only want to live anther 50? I'm 45 and planning on another 100 to go.

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[zaggahamma]

I saw it. He looke pathetic. He gave him self (deservingly) numerous
consussions. He is not what sports is all about. He didn't look so
big and bad last night. People like him give sports and steroids a bad
name.

Don Ho the Hawaiian singer went to Tiwan a few months back for
some stem cells. His heart is 2/3's dead. He is alive, but I don't
know his situation. Seems no one knows 'stem cells'. However, it's
will grow back what ever problem you have. We have a President
that is dead set against it.

i can't wait to read about it...hard to find time with all the rugrats runnin around me...lol

what's the big political prob with it...it's similar to the abortion issue, right?

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[zaggahamma]

when's your cruise bro?

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[zaggahamma]

awesome bro...i thought that was comin up soon....NO YARD WORK FOR 3 WEEKS...LOL...don't get thrown over board...LOL ..hope you and the misses have a great time

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[comradebillyboy]

have fun. I ate too much and drank too much and had way too much fun on my vacation. Who would have thought there would have been so many bars and clothing optional beaches in a moslem country (Turkey). I finally worked off the weight I gained on vacation, 10 lbs down and now 25 to go till x-mas.