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    HRT with test and hgh

    I am cycling most of the time...dont get a lot of rest really.

    So my good friend Xtralarg told me to take some time off.
    Aprox. 100 days!!!

    I easy loose gains when i am not on gear.
    So for some time now i am on 250mg test e e10 days.
    I really fvcked up my natty test i'm afraid.

    I am also on HGH now....8-10 iu a day, but what is a good amount when i am not ON cycle??

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    Doesnt work for me mate!

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    Run the hgh at approx 3-4iu for maintainance IMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xtralarg
    Run the hgh at approx 3-4iu for maintainance IMO
    I see no reason to stop using gh (unless you run out of $$) but I might use less so it's only 1 shot a day.

    Everyone is different but certainly the brand of product you use will be a factor in how much you should be using.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ufa
    Ther longer you stay on test, GH, any drug, hormone, the more it will
    take to do the same thing. You can shop for the answer you want.

    How does your bloodwork look. When I stopped for a 100 days the
    GH I was taking fixed something in my system and my "natty" natural
    test went from 300 to 500. You might be surprised to find out that
    Xtralarge if giving you some very good advice.
    Im asking because Xtra usally bullshits me.
    Thanks for your answers!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigMaus
    Im asking because Xtra usally bullshits me.
    Thanks for your answers!!
    -XL

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    Have you tried decreasing the test dose down slowly over a few weeks? i know many dont believe in this idea but ive seen some excellent results running that system if your natural test is not responding,

    I would try dropping 50mg every 10 days of your test and keep with the GH at around 3-5ius, do it slowly and then do a agressive PCT and see if you can bring it back,

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300
    Have you tried decreasing the test dose down slowly over a few weeks? i know many dont believe in this idea but ive seen some excellent results running that system if your natural test is not responding,

    I would try dropping 50mg every 10 days of your test and keep with the GH at around 3-5ius, do it slowly and then do a agressive PCT and see if you can bring it back,
    No i havent.
    Its very old school isnt it?

    Whats an agressive pct? Clomid and nolva??

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigMaus
    No i havent.
    Its very old school isnt it?

    Whats an agressive pct? Clomid and nolva??
    Its very old school when it comes to pyramid cycling but not when its decreasing your HRT dose slowly to see if you can regain any natural test, your very young and i think you could bring it back, Ive seen this work on many BB who struggle,
    I would use HCG ,clomid,nolva, proviron and trib, ithink its worth a try remember its a slow decrease over weeks and Ive seen BB's HPTA recover when only a small amount of test is being used to a run up of a aggressive PCT

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    Ok i understand, but by lowering the dose i will loose all my gains, you know this!
    I cant maintain my mass with a few mg's of natty test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigMaus
    Ok i understand, but by lowering the dose i will loose all my gains, you know this!
    I cant maintain my mass with a few mg's of natty test.
    Increase the food and do a aggressive PCT and use as many products necessary to maintain while trying to bring back your natty test.

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