androgel question

[unvme9180]

Just wondering how often do you apply the gel? They are 5 gram packets? Would you use them ED? EOD like prop or every 3-4 days like cyp or enth? Im unfamiliar with these but have access to them. Any info/help would be appreciated.

[SMAN12b]

They are a waste in my opinion as they are VERY low dose and you would need to bathe in it to get any bodybuilding benefits from it.

[zaggahamma]

yes, they are intended to be used ED and agree with SMAN that they are low doses usually for Test replacement...meant to get someone with low test to get around mid range which CAN help some...so depending on what you are trying to achieve....i took up to 3 packs a day for several weeks...that is approximately 105mg of test a week.

[zaggahamma]

Just wondering how often do you apply the gel? They are 5 gram packets? Would you use them ED? EOD like prop or every 3-4 days like cyp or enth? Im unfamiliar with these but have access to them. Any info/help would be appreciated.

just out of curiuosity if you don't mind bro...did you get a good deal on the gel?

[SMAN12b]

At 26, I am sure you are looking for more than just TRT , so unless you got a ton of gel, I wouldn't bother

[unvme9180]

didnt get any yet, but i can for basically nothing.

[SMAN12b]

well the minimum Test Prop dose I would do would be 50mgs/ED so that would be 10 of your gels Everyday !!

[unvme9180]

well the minimum Test Prop dose I would do would be 50mgs/ED so that would be 10 of your gels Everyday !!

yeah...dont think im going to go get like 800 packs of gel...

[zaggahamma]

well bro...they are very expensive so that's good for one but sman is right...you do have to bathe in it to get big results... i am a walking example cuz i went up to 3 packs a day like i said b4...i did get slightly stronger, slight muscle gain, and increase libido almost immediately even on the small doses but nothing like a couple hundred mg of inject...
BUT if it was all I could get....damn right i'd slather up....but i was under docs care and knew all my blood levels which i reccommend

don't know your stats or goals and did you do any blood work or know where your test and estro levels are....and to remind you that this is a class 3 med and should be under docs care...you can mess yourself up...it can shut down your own production of test, it can worsen cancer

wish you the best

[SMAN12b]

jpkman, do you know the release rate of the gel?
does it have an ester or is it straight TEst??

[zaggahamma]

jpkman, do you know the release rate of the gel?
does it have an ester or is it straight TEst??

i can't remember if it is actually an ester in the packs but the last time i did the math you are getting 5mg of test from the 5mg packet...i think you're getting 500mg of whatever is in it but only 1% test...i'm gonna go grab a box again and read it

[zaggahamma]

right from the insert....All patients showed an increase in serum testosterone within 30 minutes.

And it also confirmed the dose of test you will get on the 5 and 10 gram packs...just what the packet says....5 gram pack give you just that 5grams of test

[zaggahamma]

i'll keep the insert out and handy...i should have memorized it i read it so much when i first got on

[Ufa]

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[zaggahamma]

It will asorb better when you apply to inner arms or legs. (softer skin)
I personally think that it only stays in your system a few hours. JPKMAN
does your slip sheet mention any half life.

I'm going to fill the bath tub with gel and soak it up. I got this 50 gallon
drum I don't know what to do with.

Yeh, it says if you stay on gel and are afraid of injections this is what you'll have

j/k

actually, i browsed back thru that part in the insert last night....know it's longer than a few hours....it said something like thru the whole 24 hours and then you're ready for more rubbin

now i gotta find the insert to make an official statement though...yeh, ufa, i felt like i was bathing in it when i was cutting 3 packs up...you still got a lot left, huh?

i can't belive my doc wrote me 5 refills on my cyp and 'dex...now, i can hoard a few of those too

fvckin pharmacist at cvs was asking too many ?'s when i called for my refill on the cyp....he was like....what happened, your all out....says you only take 1ml e3w...i was like wtf....my insurance refills every 30 days...actually every 21-23 days so i'm way ahead of the game...I'm gonna have to use their mail order and rely on computers...they don't ask too many fvckin ?'s

[Ufa]

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[zaggahamma]

Frankly, I prefer Deca Gel.

forgot about that one...is it also dosed lightly like the test gels? cuz i'm wanting to get synergetic again...was looking to add deca

[porscheguy]

Hello all, just my 2 cents on the jell. I just started taking it a few days ago. the 5g packet once a day as perscribed by my doc. the 5g packet contanes 50 mg of test per pack at 7 per week is 350mg per week. the ingreadients say nothing about ester. I personally have found them to work pretty good but a slightly high dose would probably be a litte better. I definitally felt better and have a better libido on the stuff. I suppose if you are interested in body building it isn't the best thing out there. it is very expensive unless you have good ins. coverage or have other connections. so far I like it, but will probably ask my doc to kick it up a notch on my next visit.
porscheguy

[zaggahamma]

Hello all, just my 2 cents on the jell. I just started taking it a few days ago. the 5g packet once a day as perscribed by my doc. the 5g packet contanes 50 mg of test per pack at 7 per week is 350mg per week. the ingreadients say nothing about ester. I personally have found them to work pretty good but a slightly high dose would probably be a litte better. I definitally felt better and have a better libido on the stuff. I suppose if you are interested in body building it isn't the best thing out there. it is very expensive unless you have good ins. coverage or have other connections. so far I like it, but will probably ask my doc to kick it up a notch on my next visit.
porscheguy

your only absorbing 1% of that my brutha ....check your insert....so that 350 is shrunk to 35mg but agree with you....they worked pretty good for me as well....but i wasn't lookin for pretty

good luck porsche gettin it kicked up a notch...BAM!

[harveyjblch]

Hi, I have been on the 5gm paks for about six weeks, I have not noticed any
kind of results as of yet.
Just went to the doctor on Friday so i could get blood work to see if the gel is doing anything... I would rather have inj. than having to apply this gel everyday... and besides I hate having to worry about getting this gel on my kids and wife.

[zaggahamma]

Hi, I have been on the 5gm paks for about six weeks, I have not noticed any
kind of results as of yet.
Just went to the doctor on Friday so i could get blood work to see if the gel is doing anything... I would rather have inj. than having to apply this gel everyday... and besides I hate having to worry about getting this gel on my kids and wife.

well if you're not seeing/feeling any results then don't matter what the bloodworks says...you're prolly gonna want the injects anyway cuz it matters how you feel and you are traveling down the same path as many here that started with the gel...hopefully you're doc will be on board and you can join the syringe league
sorry you haven't gotten any benefits as of yet and hope you get what you want bro

[harveyjblch]

I do want to join the syringe league very much so. I have been reading the forum, and it seems that most everybody prefers injections over the gel any
day of the week for better results. Hopefully I can get my doc to scribe the
injections but I think he would send me to an endocronologist before he would do that. I already sent my paperwork to Oasis incase the doctors dont
do what I want.

[zaggahamma]

I do want to join the syringe league very much so. I have been reading the forum, and it seems that most everybody prefers injections over the gel any
day of the week for better results. Hopefully I can get my doc to scribe the
injections but I think he would send me to an endocronologist before he would do that. I already sent my paperwork to Oasis incase the doctors dont
do what I want.

smart move....gotta have back up...i got em both in my corner, too

[harveyjblch]

jpkman, I have read some of your post about taking a AI. did your e2 raise up alot on the gel and the injects?
I am waiting on my bloodwork results, I had my doc to check total t, free t and e2. what is the optimum level for e2?
I have a kinda of a spare tire around my waist and a little bit of fat around my chest area. Do you think my e2 levels could be high? I work out 4days a week and I run for 30 mins after every workout and still doesnt seem to help rid my body of that fat in those areas.
sorry if I got off the topic.
thanks

[zaggahamma]

jpkman, I have read some of your post about taking a AI. did your e2 raise up alot on the gel and the injects?
I am waiting on my bloodwork results, I had my doc to check total t, free t and e2. what is the optimum level for e2?
I have a kinda of a spare tire around my waist and a little bit of fat around my chest area. Do you think my e2 levels could be high? I work out 4days a week and I run for 30 mins after every workout and still doesnt seem to help rid my body of that fat in those areas.
sorry if I got off the topic.
thanks

estro didn't go up in the begginning on the low dose gel but when injecting it sure as hull did went from 19 to 65 once then up to 75 or 78 on another test...got arimidex as fast as i could and next test came back 41. The 41 was after being off my hrt for 17 days so i am unsure if it was possibly lower but either way better and i WAS able to lose more fat and become slightly vascular in my arms since adding the AI in the scene.
My new doc said my estro was fine at 41 but my hrt clinic says optimum levels are between 15-30.
Best of luck

[harveyjblch]

Thanks jpkman, I should have the results today (I think) I will post the results when I get them.

[Columbus]

They are complee junk...all it did was shut me down.....no gains, increased acne and increased fat......and trust me, my diet was 100% clean....

[harveyjblch]

Well, here are my results after being on A ndrogel for six weeks.
Total test before starting on Androgel "258"
Total test after being on Androgel "223" WTF!!!

Free test is 36.8

Estradiol is 22

I have to agree that Androgel is complete junk.

I hope I can get the doc to give injects. I am just waiting for them to call me back after the nurse talks to the doc.

[harveyjblch]

Nurse called, and Doc wants to send me to a urologist or up the dosage of Androgel . This suxs. the nurse said the doc doesnt feel comfortable give test injections.

[zaggahamma]

Nurse called, and Doc wants to send me to a urologist or up the dosage of Androgel . This suxs. the nurse said the doc doesnt feel comfortable give test injections.

just like the docs we're used to hearing about 'round here....HE'S A FUVKIN DOCTOR FOR CRYIN OUT LOUD, RIGHT? What's the problem is he squeemish around needles? LOL What a dork.

BTW, same happened to me on 5mg androgel after 14 days...levels dropped instead of rising, but on 10mg after a month or so they were at 700 something but i still sought injects.

Sounds like you hit a brick wall with this doc.....sorry bro...good luck with it...know exactly where you're coming from

[harveyjblch]

I am going to seek injects...I believe I will hit up Oasis or look for a hrt clinic here in Houston.