need some anwers by thursday..

[phatkid77]

hey guys.....very quick bio....currentlly 30yr old, my test levels have been low for atleast 3 yrs...feel sluggish, tired, gain weight easy, fat easier, ***ressed, sexually uninterested, the odd testical pain? WICKED BAD MEMORY....

i have some blood work back and some outstanding....id love to A. get on test shots, BUT FIRST FIND OUT IF I AM....

1. PRIMARY
2. SECONDARY
3. ADRENAL FATIGUE

i see my GP on thursday and urologist in OCTOBER!! so if i can get my GP To start something now....id be elated....

shbg.....28nmol
estradoil...78pmol/L ref...<220pmol/L.....converts to 21pg/ml
i have my total test.... 397nmol
biotest....202...where do i want it?
my LH normal at 3.4 (iguess?)
my PROLACTIN is high at 10.6 THS normal at 2.12, and other tests are outstanding
dheas.....302mcg/dl
tsh.......2.10ug/l
albumin 4.4

and whilst punching some numbers in the calculater im
2.13% free testosterone
53.4 % bio avail test??? whatever those numbers mean??

so it looks like my SHGB is normal, LH is normal, biotest is low, dheas low, and prolactin high, even tho i think i have some tests outstanding (FSH, FT3,FT4,DHT).....CAN ANYTHING BE INTERPRETED BY MY CURRENT BLOOD WORK??

i have asked ALOT of questions elsewhere, but i think this summarizes my drauma nicely...lol

thnaks guys

phats

[lacey231]

What your ranges?

LH if it is the same as mine range is 2-6. So Primary would mean you LH is way too high. So that means you're secondary if you're low normal and having problems.

DHEA is low in a lot of guys with low test because of the p450scc enzyme which is stimulated by LH. That enzyme helps turn Cholesterol into Pregnenalone. DHEA's just down the pathway from prego so if LH is lower then it should be for you then it can be messing with your adrenal #'s like DHEA. Seems like taking Hcg while on TRT helps that, and some docs put their patients on some DHEA too.

I havn't had to deal with Prolactin too much because mine's fine.. What's your ranges though? Mine are 2-18 which would put you right in the middle of the range.

[phatkid77]

yep, middle of the road..... for prolactin...but on LEF.ORG... they say over 5 is high....and since we are in ontario our ranges should be identical

oh, my DHEA-S is converted for our US friends.... my number is 8.2umol, which i figured good in the range of 2.8-12.4...but converted to 302 is well under LEF ideal of 400-560 i think...

phats

[lacey231]

yep, middle of the road..... for prolactin...but on LEF.ORG... they say over 5 is high....and since we are in ontario our ranges should be identical

oh, my DHEA-S is converted for our US friends.... my number is 8.2umol, which i figured good in the range of 2.8-12.4...but converted to 302 is well under LEF ideal of 400-560 i think...

phats

Really. Didn't know that. My prolactins hopefully fine at 6 I'm guessing.
Yeah DHEA's definitly low. That should get bumped up when you're on Hcg though while on test. For my DHEA-S test they use umol/L units too, but the range is 7.6-17.4. Weird, would probably make a big difference in converting to American range.

[phatkid77]

i just find when i post my nmbers i dont get much response...our units are not what they usuallys see... so i figure its easier for them to evaluate..

for dhea
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...109946562/pg_2

www.globalrph.com/conv_si.htm

www.vin.com/scripts/labquest/converthtml.pl

phats