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**crawdaddy** · 09-28-2007, 02:47 PM

I know i've seen this before, but i couldn't find the answer. When taking Androgel as a TRT does your body stop producing its natural amount of test?

**Merc..** · 09-30-2007, 02:20 PM

Yes !!!!

Merc.

**soulstealer** · 09-30-2007, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by crawdaddy

I know i've seen this before, but i couldn't find the answer. When taking Androgel as a TRT does your body stop producing its natural amount of test?

I'll give you a slightly deeper answer... when introducing an exogenous hormone your body has a negative feedback loop mechanism to slow down or stop production of LH and FSH so as to attain homeostasis

**Amorphic** · 09-30-2007, 02:42 PM

any exogenous testosterone will suppress your endogenous levels

**Raven88** · 10-01-2007, 12:00 AM

One would think that if you're scripted Androgel for TRT, that your natty test levels are already at an undesirable state. So what would be the difference?

**Kratos** · 10-01-2007, 12:04 AM

Originally Posted by Raven88

One would think that if you're scripted Androgel for TRT, that your natty test levels are already at an undesirable state. So what would be the difference?

you are turning off the balls, in most cases for good

**Drummerboy** · 10-01-2007, 12:06 AM

yes.

**crawdaddy** · 10-01-2007, 04:50 PM

Rave-I self lowered my levels. They are not normally low.

Now I have the script(2 actully) and my levels are all F'd up. I don't know if I should start the gel or run PCT(which may be hard to get) or not take anything.
My doc said my pituitary levels came back .8, yeah thats point 8! I'm going for an MRI tomorrow. The doc thinks I may have a mass around my pituitary. She can't understand why with T levels so low my pituitary should be higher than normal. Anyone know how long it will take the pituitary level to go back to normal? Trying to figure out what to do.

**Twiggs** · 10-10-2007, 04:18 AM

the typical turn around is six months.

although medication, supplements and other mitigating lifestyle changes may have an affect.

Though growth or tumors can obviously affect levels higher/lower... though a lighter weight of possibilities might suggest that if T levels are lower than your estrogens then it's a possibility it's overcompensating... which is relatively along the lines of what soulstealer said somewhere up there. I don't remember college.. I was a friggin' studio arts major.

There's more than a couple papers on various situations in which people who had no prior medical condition or genetic abnormality, if I recall correctly they started them on lower dosages of T for anywhere between three months to a year - the situations ranged from reversing pre-op sex changes i.e. chemical castration to male athletes with anorexia and those with HIV and blood related cancers. I don't recall the papers title but it was available via blackwell synergy. 2003 seemed to be the peak period for lower t-levels in male anorexics and athletes. But it's all likely irrelevant.

Though it isn't too uncommon for it to be "prescribed" for a cycle to bring levels back up... but wouldn't really know the suggest dosage.

Maybe the fertility camps have something on it. Eh, good luck anyway.