Newbie - Finished 1st Cycle - Questions!

[KXHost]

Hi all,

Am a bit new to the steroid scene, but thought i'd give it a go, despite a few complications; the main ones being:

1. I'm only 18 - Does that mean I still have more than enough testosterone ?

2. Being fulltime at University means i'm restricted to when I can eat, therefore a diet isn't going to be as thorough as it should be. However, I am still manage to have protein shakes at least twice a day (pre and post workout).

My first cycle consisted of 12 weeks - but was variation in steroids (see below):

Week 1: 1 jab of 1ml of sustanon 250
Week 2: 1 jab of 1ml of t350
Week 3: 1 jab of 1ml of t350
Week 4: 1 jab of 1ml of sustanon
Week 5: 1 jab of 1ml of sustanon
Week 6: 1 jab of 1ml of sustanon
Week 7: 1 jab of 1ml of sustanon
Week 8: 1 jab of 1ml of sustanon
Week 9: 1 jab of 1ml of sustanon stacked with 1ml of tremoblone
Week 10: 1 jab of 1ml of sustanon stacked with 1ml of tremoblone
Week 1: 1 jab of 1ml of sustanon stacked with 1ml of tremoblone
Week 12: 2 jabs of 1ml of sustanon stacked with 1ml of tremoblone

During the cycle, I gained 12lbs (from 142lbs to 154lbs), and dropped 2% bodyfat (from 17% to 15%). It has now been 3 weeks since the cycle and i've maintained my bodyfat but lost 2lbs (now at 152lbs).

Am due to start my 2nd cycle in Feburary, however am debaiting what to take?

I have been recommended growth (igf), although i've been told to be careful with dosage etc.

Do I continue doing a stack of sust with trem, but take trem every other day? Or do I forget them and try out igf for a month? Or both?

All suggestions appreciated in advance!

The pic attached is from week 11 of cycle 1.

Many thanks,

KXHost

[darr]

18 is to young for aas imo! wot was your pct??

[darr]

who ever recommended you to run igf is a retard!you only done 1 all over the place cycle wot did your PCT consist of????????????????????

[KXHost]

Yeh a few people have said the same with regards to age. Unfortunately its a bit too late now, but despite the suggestions, I think i'm going to continue for another cycle or so.

With regards to PCT, all I have taken is anadrol (oxymetholone) 50mg daily for 2 weeks, pre cycle, if thats what PCT is?

What are the concequences of running igf at my age with little steroid history?

Cheers for the feedback

KXHost

[darr]

WTFyou dont take anadrol for PCT !!!!!!DO you even no wot PCT is !STOP TAKEIN STERIODS YOUR GOIN TO DO DAMAGE TO YOUR SELF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[darr]

your post is in the wrong section!ADMIN will sort that out.

[Big]

Wow, your cycle is not good, and that is being polite. You are too young to juice anyway, obviously have no idea how to do a pct, and are already planning another cycle without anywhere near enough time off. Bro, if you don't stop and do a proper pct right now, then stay off for a long time while researching how to do this properly, I'm certain you will hurt yourself in the long run.

[KXHost]

Sorry for the delay in reply.

Woah! What to say?.. I didn't know the response would be like that! (appreciated!)

Quite a few friends of mine (early 20's) have been doing them, similar cycles, and have been fine? Without PCT (do give me a correct definition!).

I realise the 1st cycle was a bad 'random' shall we say - but like i said, others have been doing the same thing too!

What do you suggest I do from here? When is an "appropiate" time to start on them?

Thanks guys

[Big]

many young people who cycle improperly think they are fine till later in life, then the realization and regret sets in. Fortunately you came to the right place. Pct is essential to restore your natural testosterone production which is suppressed while on cycle. During pct you should not use suppressive compounds as it will work against the idea of pct. HCG would be an exception, but that's a different story for another time. Take some time to read up in the pct section and learn about it. Taking time off before your next cycle after pct is to allow your natural levels and HTPA to return to normal, a general rule is time on+pct=time off, so for instance if it's a 12 week cycle and 4 week pct, then you would take an additional 16 weeks off after pct before cycling again.

[KXHost]

Ok excellent, cheers for the info - shall read up on PCT shortly

[KXHost]

Now I understand PCT

Nolvadex seems like the best SERM option due to price and it being the most common?

Would you say 3 weeks afta a cycle is too late to start PCT?

[IM MACHO]

dude u need to stay away from AAS before you hurt yourself! And obviously your friends dont got any idea of what there doing either and are lureing you into failure!! educate yourself before you medicate bro!!

[KXHost]

Yep cheers for the advice.. although it seems a silly thing to do, i've decided to do a smaller 4 wk cycle from next week (to get test lvls back up!), but follow it by 4 wks of proper PCT (so test lvls adjust naturally)! I think it's a it late to do PCT now for the last cycle that i finishd 3 wks ago??

When I mention your feedback to the friends, their attitude is "yeh people tell u not to smoke weed but people still do and are fine" :S

[Big]

Do a cycle to get your test levels back up? It doesn't work that way, cycles are suppressive and the more you cycle the more suppressed you will be.

[admirals56]

with sustaston you should start pct 3 weeks after last injection so start asap and you might keep you gains

[keith1958]

many young people who cycle improperly think they are fine till later in life, then the realization and regret sets in. Fortunately you came to the right place. Pct is essential to restore your natural testosterone production which is suppressed while on cycle. During pct you should not use suppressive compounds as it will work against the idea of pct. HCG would be an exception, but that's a different story for another time. Take some time to read up in the pct section and learn about it. Taking time off before your next cycle after pct is to allow your natural levels and HTPA to return to normal, a general rule is time on+pct=time off, so for instance if it's a 12 week cycle and 4 week pct, then you would take an additional 16 weeks off after pct before cycling again.

Good Advice

dude u need to stay away from AAS before you hurt yourself! And obviously your friends dont got any idea of what there doing either and are lureing you into failure!! educate yourself before you medicate bro!!

Couldn't of said it better myself

Yep cheers for the advice.. although it seems a silly thing to do, i've decided to do a smaller 4 wk cycle from next week (to get test lvls back up!), but follow it by 4 wks of proper PCT (so test lvls adjust naturally)! I think it's a it late to do PCT now for the last cycle that i finishd 3 wks ago??

When I mention your feedback to the friends, their attitude is "yeh people tell u not to smoke weed but people still do and are fine" :S

You are to young and from what I have seen hear way to stupid. Grow up and learn to take advice and research.

[KXHost]

**** off, I am taking advice! Hence i've been asking so many questions!! So no need to say "grow up".

Thank you Admirals, was unaware that PCT should be started 3 weeks after the use of sustanon . Will start PCT tomorrow

Thanks

[Coach 44]

As a college coach, I see and hear this all the time. The responses to your questions are honest and even when they sting a little, it's solid advice and much more than you would get from a doctor. I often refer players to this site, even though I don't really want them to know that I'm on HRT. But if it will educate one misguided athlete, then I think it's worth it. You mentioned that you are at University, so you can do the research yourself, just be patient and approach it with the same attitude that you would any course.
We hear so much today about steroids in baseball . In my day, there was no site like this, no internet and we relied on the advice of morons who seemed to be achieving great results. Well, you never heard about these guys and never will, because they are wrecked today. And the decisions they made by listening to the uninformed know it all's not only cost them an opportunity to realize their dreams and goals, but left them unable to live a productive life.

[keith1958]

**** off, I am taking advice! Hence i've been asking so many questions!! So no need to say "grow up".

Thank you Admirals, was unaware that PCT should be started 3 weeks after the use of sustanon . Will start PCT tomorrow

Thanks

I guess I made my point. Don't mean to be so rough on you but this has some very serious side to it and if me p!$$!%^ you off helps then I will continue. Good Luck