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    Fat Bloke is offline New Member
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    Question 51 yrs hrt Sustanon 250mg

    Hi i am taking Sustanon 250mg once a week on my second week, what can expect how long to take effect,i was hoping for my energy levels to be higher and to to be less tired, is Sustanon 250mg right for this, or would other gear be better for the job any help please, be gentle this is my first post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat Bloke View Post
    Hi i am taking Sustanon 250mg once a week on my second week, what can expect how long to take effect,i was hoping for my energy levels to be higher and to to be less tired, is Sustanon 250mg right for this, or would other gear be better for the job any help please, be gentle this is my first post
    It should be fine. It has variable half lives to give you a well rounded test level over a two week period. You should be at your max, in full swing around midway through the third week. You'll get good energy, appetite boost, sex drive and more mental focus.....enjoy!

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    yea sust aint bad its always been one of my favs. What kind is it?

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    Is this for TRT/HRT or a cycle ? If its TRT then that dose is way to high to be on permanently. Have you had a blood test to determine your Test and Estradiol levels before you started ?

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    i am using (jelfa)Omnadren 250. this is for TRT not a cycle i am looking for long term wellness, and loose the fat, training hard ,eating clean,but just cant shift the fat 51 yrs 238lbs 24% bf. just giving it a try, had no blood work,i have not used any gear before,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kale View Post
    Is this for TRT/HRT or a cycle ? If its TRT then that dose is way to high to be on permanently. Have you had a blood test to determine your Test and Estradiol levels before you started ?
    exactly...you need blood tests to see what dose is right for you. And if you are going to need TRT, i would get away from the sust. The shorter lasting esters in it will cause fluxuations in levels with a once a week injection. This could cause you too feel crappy with flu-like symptoms. (not in everyone) I would go with cyp once a week. But get checked out and see what dose is right for you. At your age with low natural test levels, it should be no problem getting it perscribed. Then if you have insurance it will be very cheap and you will remain healthy and not screw yourself up. Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TBones View Post
    exactly...you need blood tests to see what dose is right for you. And if you are going to need TRT, i would get away from the sust. The shorter lasting esters in it will cause fluxuations in levels with a once a week injection. This could cause you too feel crappy with flu-like symptoms. (not in everyone) I would go with cyp once a week. But get checked out and see what dose is right for you. At your age with low natural test levels, it should be no problem getting it perscribed. Then if you have insurance it will be very cheap and you will remain healthy and not screw yourself up. Good luck!

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    Are you sure?? I think Sust was designed to keep a more consistant serum test level because of the esthers being both short and long acting. In fact...I know that's what it was developed for...more consistant serum test levels over a period of 2 weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orion811 View Post
    Are you sure?? I think Sust was designed to keep a more consistant serum test level because of the esthers being both short and long acting. In fact...I know that's what it was developed for...more consistant serum test levels over a period of 2 weeks.
    You are correct but not if injected once a week. It's designed for a monthly (or 3 wks, cant remember) injection. As the short esters wear off the longer ones take over and so on like you said. So if you are supposed to be on say 150mg/wk then you would shoot 450mg every 3 weeks or something like that. I'll dig up the write up on it's design.

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    Here's some info on the mfg's intent. I could paste a lot more but MY consesus is that you either inject EOD or E3W in my opinion. You might have heard of "sust flu". That is due to test level fluxuation (sp?). For BB'ing purposes high doses like 750mg per wk, you probably not notice as much. But for HRT i like cyp or En. Sorry for taking this so off topic but i hope it's useful info.

    "Sustanon 250 product was developed by Organon as an ideal HRT (Hormone Replacement Therapy) solution, and it was thought at the time that the different esters would be able to provide a constant release of Testosterone over a months time. Sustanon is a blend of different estered testosterones (4 of them): testosterone propionate - 30 mg, testosterone phenylpropionate - 60 mg, testosterone isocaproate - 60mg, and testosterone decanoate -100 mg.

    This drug was highly sought after as a "superior" version of testosterone in the late 80´s and through the mid 90´s. No doubt this is partly due to the very nice write-up Dan Duchaine gave it in his newsletters. However, lets keep in mind that this drug was designed for convenience, not athletics or bodybuilding. The advantage to this drug, according to the manufacturer, is that it can be injected once a month, and the different esters would provide different timed releases over that month, and the patient would therefore only need to visit the doctor once a month for his shot. For athletes or bodybuilders (who routinely use between half a gram and a gram of testosterone per week), this product is really no better than any other form of injectable testosterone."


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    Last edited by TBones; 04-23-2008 at 10:11 AM.

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    COOL!! Thanks for the info, that's awesome you came back with all that. I've had the test flu, and it seems Eq also has a flu type thing that it brings. Never really knew why they were there, just waited them out.

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    OK i will knock sus on the head,and go with Cypionate how much is the required dosage, will i need Nolvadex for Gynocomastia with a low dosage each week

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat Bloke View Post
    OK i will knock sus on the head,and go with Cypionate how much is the required dosage, will i need Nolvadex for Gynocomastia with a low dosage each week
    Start with 100mg a week for a month then have a blood test to see where your Test and Estrogen levels are at and adjust accordingly. Nolvadex is not required. You are better off having Arimidex on hand as its much more effective. A lot of us on TRT take 0.25mg EOD just to be on the safe side.

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    OK Thanks for your help

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    OK going to start running 100mg Test Cypionate each week ,thinging of running 100mg Deca as well for joint pain knees, elbow,shoulder etc, how good is deca for joints ,please

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat Bloke View Post
    OK going to start running 100mg Test Cypionate each week ,thinging of running 100mg Deca as well for joint pain knees, elbow,shoulder etc, how good is deca for joints ,please
    I use it, its excellent

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