Kales Blood Test Results

**Kale** · 10-06-2008, 07:39 PM

I had a blood test done on Sunday. Six days after my weekly injection of 125mg Test E. I am also doing Adex at 0.5mg on Mon and Thurs.

My test levels were 1384 ng/nl, the top of the range is 900ng/nl here. My estradiol is 10 and the range for a male is between 0 and 40 according to the Dr. So I need to back off the test a bit, this level really surprised me given I am 53. I am happy with the Esradiol as I have a feeling that that is more the cause of Prostate Cancer than Testosterone , so I am happy to keep it at that level.

**natureboy** · 10-06-2008, 07:51 PM

How much are you going to lower? Is the Dr lowering your dose or is he recommending that you lower it?

**FallenWyvern** · 10-06-2008, 08:05 PM

1384 is high.

13 seems low, isn't around 25 better?

**zaggahamma** · 10-06-2008, 08:26 PM

Originally Posted by Kale

I had a blood test done on Sunday. Six days after my weekly injection of 125mg Test E. I am also doing Adex at 0.5mg on Mon and Thurs.

My test levels were 1384 ng/nl, the top of the range is 900ng/nl here. My estradiol is 10 and the range for a male is between 0 and 40 according to the Dr. So I need to back off the test a bit, this level really surprised me given I am 53. I am happy with the Esradiol as I have a feeling that that is more the cause of Prostate Cancer than Testosterone, so I am happy to keep it at that level.

yeh kale, the estradiol at 10 is good for you?....keeping that girl happy with that number?

**Kale** · 10-06-2008, 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by jpkman

yeh kale, the estradiol at 10 is good for you?....keeping that girl happy with that number?

Well lets just say I am in Bangkok right now and I am doing three a day !!! So yes the Estradiol is working for me. The Test is too high. I will lower it to 100mg and see what that gives me.

**lovbyts** · 10-13-2008, 03:25 AM

Damn you, DAMN YOU TO HELL!!! Because I'm not there also.

Drop by Secrets sometime and tell Larry I said hi or LD1 and say hello to Shane.

**2bshredded** · 10-14-2008, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by Kale

Well lets just say I am in Bangkok right now and I am doing three a day !!! So yes the Estradiol is working for me. The Test is too high. I will lower it to 100mg and see what that gives me.

So estradiol is a function of the Test., I'm thinking my TRT is way too high.
I used to feel so much better, now my libido is slipping.....I'm not taking any adex either. ???? I'm brewing my test and I guess I'm 400 a week!!

Your comments would be appreciated, don't mean to hijack but since you were on the subject.

**Kale** · 10-14-2008, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by 2bshredded

So estradiol is a function of the Test., I'm thinking my TRT is way too high.
I used to feel so much better, now my libido is slipping.....I'm not taking any adex either. ???? I'm brewing my test and I guess I'm 400 a week!!

Your comments would be appreciated, don't mean to hijack but since you were on the subject.

Not hijacking at all dude we are all here to help one another. Now 400 a week is WAY too high, that is a full cycle and your Estrogen levels may be high and your Test levels will be through the roof. And yes, they are directly related

You need to back off the Test to 100mg a week as a base line. Do that for four to six weeks then get your Testosterone and Estradiol levels tested. From there you can make some informed decisions on dosage and whether or not Estrogen is an issue. If it is, Arimidex will fix that problem

**2bshredded** · 10-15-2008, 07:01 AM

That's what I'll do, estro is a problem.....I know I'm so fcvking emotional I feel like a bitch!! LOL

Thanks Kale, my plan is in effect!

BTW......How's Bangkok?

**Kale** · 10-15-2008, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by 2bshredded

That's what I'll do, estro is a problem.....I know I'm so fcvking emotional I feel like a bitch!! LOL

Thanks Kale, my plan is in effect!

BTW......How's Bangkok?

Bangkok was awesome I just got back home to Singapore after four days of bliss !!!!

**2bshredded** · 10-15-2008, 12:39 PM

You da Man!!! But I'm following right behind ya.

**whiteowl** · 11-22-2008, 10:45 PM

Hello Kale,

am 55...at 150 a week my test came back at 423; free at 91; the kicker was my hemoglobin count at 17.5..Dr said i was making too much red blood cells and needed to donate blood every two months which he would not order. He cut me back to 125.

What was your hemoglobin?

**Kale** · 11-22-2008, 10:52 PM

Originally Posted by whiteowl

Hello Kale,

am 55...at 150 a week my test came back at 423; free at 91; the kicker was my hemoglobin count at 17.5..Dr said i was making too much red blood cells and needed to donate blood every two months which he would not order. He cut me back to 125.

What was your hemoglobin?

Man that is weird !!! No idea what my Hemoglobin is I dont think I have ever had it checked before. When I do my tests they are specific and not complete tests.

I Cant believe your test is that low at that dose. What kind of Test are you using ? What was your Estradiol level ?

**whiteowl** · 11-22-2008, 10:59 PM

test prop--was enth but had pig face going so Dr agreed to switch it. First test at a new lab was 900+ so Dr ordered a retest and i cut it way back the month of the test figuring 1/2 life at 14 days. Estridiol was 10. Was hitting the arimidex 2x week at .5 and i figured it might have skewed the first blood test so i dropped it completely the month prior to the 2nd test.

**zaggahamma** · 11-23-2008, 06:41 AM

about the rbc count...i've needed to donate blood and have since starting trt and last week it had been 2 months since donating veins popping and all and my rbc's were too low to donate? diet really not changed so cant figure...oh well thought i'd throw that out there

**whiteowl** · 11-23-2008, 04:47 PM

jpk

Red Cross said if i was on HRT the Dr had to order the blood donation cause they handle it different...is that so?

**zaggahamma** · 11-23-2008, 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by whiteowl

jpk

Red Cross said if i was on HRT the Dr had to order the blood donation cause they handle it different...is that so?

never had to go any route different than anyone else....questionaire asks if you do steroids NOT scribed by doctor so i answer truthfully yes but the low rbc is really weird...the only thing different is i have developed kale's curse and have a 24 year old gf and we kid that the reason for the low rbc is the 3 a days

**natureboy** · 11-23-2008, 06:12 PM

I give blood, I've never seen anything about test. I know they ask about hgh.

**Kale** · 11-24-2008, 03:16 AM

Originally Posted by jpkman

never had to go any route different than anyone else....questionaire asks if you do steroids NOT scribed by doctor so i answer truthfully yes but the low rbc is really weird...the only thing different is i have developed kale's curse and have a 24 year old gf and we kid that the reason for the low rbc is the 3 a days

**GottaGetIt** · 11-24-2008, 08:55 PM

I want a 24yo GF.......

lol
Kale - is the Arimidex avail in Bangkok affordably?
Also, do they have compounding pharmacies there?
Thanks.

**Kale** · 11-24-2008, 09:40 PM

Originally Posted by GottaGetIt

I want a 24yo GF.......

lol
Kale - is the Arimidex avail in Bangkok affordably?
Also, do they have compounding pharmacies there?
Thanks.

Yes very affordable, they have generic versions which are quite cheap. I have no idea what a "compounding pharmacy" is !!!

**GottaGetIt** · 11-24-2008, 09:43 PM

Nice!
I'm planning a trip to Asia next year and may rent an apartment
in Bangkok as a home base. Trying to make sure I can continue
my TRT while abroad.
Clarify for me.... is a GF in Thailand always a work for hire or are
there actual cool women that aren't just looking for a "rich" Westerner?

**Kale** · 11-25-2008, 01:38 AM

Originally Posted by GottaGetIt

Nice!
I'm planning a trip to Asia next year and may rent an apartment
in Bangkok as a home base. Trying to make sure I can continue
my TRT while abroad.
Clarify for me.... is a GF in Thailand always a work for hire or are
there actual cool women that aren't just looking for a "rich" Westerner?

Very difficult to get a Thai woman into a relationship that isnt a working girl. There culture is very, very different from ours. You will know what I am talking about when you go there. Prostitution is not the same hard core shit that it is in the west, its simply a way for them to look after them selves and there families, rather than fund a drug habit. I would never fvck a whore in the west, ever !!!

You need to read a book called "Private Dancer" it is supposedly fictional and it is an excellent insight into the way they think and why they do what they do. But it is amazingly accurate in real life.

So, my advice to you is either play the field while you are there, its incredibly cheap. Or find a super hot bar girl and keep her with you. The only cost is that you have to look after them while they stay with you but the sex will be at call and endless

I met my Avi in a bar in Bangkok and we had a relationship for three years. Was she still working in that time ? Probably, but I didnt care as long as it was on tap for me when I went there. I also used to fly her all over Asia to be with me when I traveled some where. We had a ball together !!!

**GottaGetIt** · 11-25-2008, 01:40 AM

Originally Posted by Kale

Very difficult to get a Thai woman into a relationship that isnt a working girl. There culture is very, very different from ours. You will know what I am talking about when you go there. Prostitution is not the same hard core shit that it is in the west, its simply a way for them to look after them selves and there families, rather than fund a drug habit. I would never fvck a whore in the west, ever !!!

You need to read a book called "Private Dancer" it is supposedly fictional and it is an excellent insight into the way they think and why they do what they do. But it is amazingly accurate in real life.

So, my advice to you is either play the field while you are there, its incredibly cheap. Or find a super hot bar girl and keep her with you. The only cost is that you have to look after them while they stay with you but the sex will be at call and endless.

Good info.