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[senorsalt]

getting my bloodwork done end of this week...
what do you guys think will be the best thing to get off of my doctor(most effective)..


ALSO, any ideas for lowering my testerone prior to getting the blood work done???


any and all help greatly apprecicated

[hankdiesel]

If your test levels are truely low why do you need to lower them more? Test cyp is the most common prescibed test.

[rebelstate]

alcohol can lower test..so i hear,read up...you would probally have to drink every day for a while though

[whiteowl]

If you are married you can dissuade you Dr/Endo from prescribing creams because she can get transfer. My Endo started me on Test E but the sides (E2 scent) were a problem so he switched me to Test Cyp. The facial bloat (which was more likely due to me overdoing a good thing) and the scent went away with the Cyp. My wife does all the pokes unless i am on the road so you may want to suggest any experience she has with injections. Insomnia, which is a symptom of low test, lowers it more, and Rebel is correct, getting hammered will lower it. My advice is to stay with what is cause follow up tests (troughs/peaks) will be a problem if you start messing with your levels.

[subnet]

whiteowl - what do you mean by E2 scent?

[buckeyes#1]

I was also wondering about the scent thing. I have noticed I have body odor since starting TRT. i thought it was the androgel , but still have it with the Test E shots. I rarely used to have B.O. I will shower and hours later have mild odor. I smell it, but the wife hasn't said anything.

[whiteowl]

i believe it is what is referred to on this site as Aromatase. It is a sweet scent that follows any perspiration. It is not pungent or unpleasant, just strong. It had to be related to Test E because it ceased when i went to Test Cyp. I was very self-consicous about it and began wearing t-shirts under all my shirts regardless of the weather.

[zaggahamma]

never heard of e2 scent

[whiteowl]

From the sides thread: large percentage of those side effects occur from the body´s ability to turn testosterone into estrogen via a metabolic pathway mediated by the aromatase enzyme. This process, known as aromatization causes a portion of testosterone to be converted to estrogen. Aromatization is defined as "cause to have a pleasant and distinctive smell"

[zaggahamma]

From the sides thread: large percentage of those side effects occur from the body´s ability to turn testosterone into estrogen via a metabolic pathway mediated by the aromatase enzyme. This process, known as aromatization causes a portion of testosterone to be converted to estrogen. Aromatization is defined as "cause to have a pleasant and distinctive smell"

interesting

[whiteowl]

jpk...if i understand it correctly the process also leads to "itchy nipples" then to gyno.

[zaggahamma]

jpk...if i understand it correctly the process also leads to "itchy nipples" then to gyno.

i've had itchy/uncomfortable nipples since i started injecting probably because i mainly tried larger doses most of my time on trt and had to do a lot of arimidex as well...the last month or two i've been doing between 100mg and 150mg a week and only using like .25 to .50 arimidex for the whole week....on the larger doses i would at least do .25 eod and 9 times out of 10 would take a fourth to equal 1mg arimex for the week....i like the lower dose of test and the little arimidex...easier to control....started doing this after zonadave talked about going as low as 80mg a week and minute doses of arimidex...but still never heard of the estro smell except when i travel south

[senorsalt]

alrite... got my results fromt the doctor...

my test is severly LOW LOW LOW..

doc put my on 10mg methyltestosterone pills. 30mg a day every day. and sending me to endocrine doctor so we will see..

test was at 27. yea 27. wtf.

[buckeyes#1]

You are the first person I have read on here taking oral test. I know women are prescribed it for their issues. Since, it is methyl, won't that be harsh on the liver?

[senorsalt]

yea itll be harsh on liver but all is well... he said a lot of different things are harsh on the liver..

[ds53]

Thats a lot of arimidex for that low of a dosage, I always have itchy fuzzy nips the day after the injection but never had Puffy, sensative, painful nips that would indicate gyno. That low of a dose about .5 every 3 days should be enough. Arimidex has a active life of 3 days and you want to keep a pretty good ratio of estrogen or you will get bad HDL LDL ratios. You dont want to get to dry. But if there is quite a bit of alcohol consumption involved it will definately take more arimidex as the first thing your liver does when you drink is dump the test and it then gets converted to estrogen, ever wonder why your dick quit working after ingesting large quanities of alcohol.