just a question

**drdeath613** · 01-18-2010, 12:34 PM

iv always wondered about this and i dont think iv ever seen this asked at least i couldnt find it by search button

anyways orals vs shots

what would raise your blood pressure more how high and for how long or are they about the same

**tboney** · 01-18-2010, 03:22 PM

There is no definitive answer to this. It depends on the individual, his or her genetic make up, any pre-existing conditions and the dose of the compound. Certainly there are some compounds that do tend to have more bp related side effects.......

**drdeath613** · 01-19-2010, 02:48 AM

and what ones in ur mind affects bp more so then others

**tboney** · 01-19-2010, 09:45 AM

In my opinion, compounds like halo, tren , mast raise bp more than some of the others, but again, its really an individual thing.

**firsttimer555** · 01-19-2010, 10:00 AM

is cutting gear harder on your body than bulking are about the same

**drdeath613** · 01-19-2010, 10:20 AM

see i always thought bulking type gear would be worse on bp cause

your gaining more muscle fat and water

the higher % in fat and water would be harder on the heart

see my problem is my rest rate is 140/80 to 145/85 iv been taking a cycle of p-plex a prohormone and it can raise it with taking 2000mg of hawthorn as much as 155/90

is that normal thing that happens

**zaggahamma** · 01-19-2010, 10:59 PM

Originally Posted by drdeath613

see i always thought bulking type gear would be worse on bp cause

your gaining more muscle fat and water

the higher % in fat and water would be harder on the heart

see my problem is my rest rate is 140/80 to 145/85 iv been taking a cycle of p-plex a prohormone and it can raise it with taking 2000mg of hawthorn as much as 155/90

is that normal thing that happens

thats pretty high bp...r u considering bp meds

**Vettester** · 01-19-2010, 11:42 PM

Dr.Death, have you ran some BW lately? I'd be curious how your ALT, AST, and kidneys (BUN, urinalysis, possibly creatine). I went through a stint in my 30's, turned out to be a cyst on my right kidney. Anyway, BW might help nail down some specific answers.

Good luck!

**Brian McClay** · 01-20-2010, 02:58 PM

In my opinion orals are much more toxic than inj. B P also seems to go way up on orals.

**drdeath613** · 01-20-2010, 05:27 PM

iv always had a high bp even as a kid the last time i had any blood work done was well over 2 years ago and i was told i was health as a horse i also just stoped smoking so in time it should lower back down some yea ill be 32 this coming june

**Vettester** · 01-20-2010, 10:58 PM

Congrats on quitting!!! That in itself might make a nice difference. Next time you're in the doc, have them double check the kidneys just to play it safe. Probably could be a combination of things, and if you're dealing with any stress at work, home, wherever, it will contribute to the problem. Great excuse to take a nice long vacation