Help with liquid arimidex for belly fat

[cypionate74]

I went from 22% body fat to 23% body fat with TRT. Test cypionate : 120 mg/week. My waist has increased. I have been taking 0.2 mg liquid arimidex EOD for a month. I do strength training 3 times per week and cardio 6 times per week with no reduction in belly fat. My strength has greatly increased along with libido but I have gained a lot of fat in the midsection. I mostly stay on low carb diet. I started taking liquid arimidex a month ago but no change in belly fat. Where can I find quality liquid arimidex? Is the dose too low? My doctor won't prescribe arimidex. He says that my estrogen level on the seventh day (before my next injection) is within normal range. My estrogen was 44 in January.

[lovbyts]

Diet, diet, diet.
With muscle come increase in size and weight. Just because you have increased in size and weight does not mean you are not loosing fat also. You just need to loose more fat and it takes time.

Once I learned to eat 6+ meals a day after about 90 days the fat just started falling off. It's better to have slow maintained results and overnight because it will come back just as fast.

Go visit the diet section and learn to start eating right. Dont think that chemicals are your answer. It's about changing your lifestyle that put you to where you are at now.

[amcon]

why would the arimidex help for body fat?

body fat = diet

and go back and edit your post on where you go the research chems...

read the rules - dont post sorces... thanks

[cypionate74]

Thanks for the reply. I checked the Diet section. That's a lot of calories probably for bulking up. I work 9 hrs a day behind a computer. On Mon-Fri, I do cardio on treadmill at home because I am not able to go the gym. On Sat and Sun I go to the gym and lift weights and do cardio. I am 210 lbs and try to remain within 2000-2500 cal range. That diet plan has 5000+ calories.

[Vettester]

Agree with the others about the diet. It's easy to start packing it on when you go on TRT ... I know, I gained 20lbs myself when I first went on it. You'll see it leave just the same if you get that diet dialed in, along with a good cardio plan.

I've used both pharmaceutical grade and research chemical on the Arimidex . The pharmaceutical stuff worked great for me with the bloating issues, whereas the research stuff didn't appear to do as well. Got a new script from the doctor and I'm taking 0.5mg 2xwk and everything is back to normal (no bloats). My E2 used to be about where yours is. I'm holding on at/around a score of 25 with taking the Adex 2xWk, and I'm taking 200mg of Test C for my TRT. My primary doc would never give me an AI either, which was just one of the reasons that led me to seek out a HRT doc who knows what the hell they're doing.

[zaggahamma]

fat in midsection cant be attributed to your trt...as above stated...diet...

....for me...trt did help trim the waistline when i started

[cypionate74]

Agree with the others about the diet. It's easy to start packing it on when you go on TRT ... I know, I gained 20lbs myself when I first went on it. You'll see it leave just the same if you get that diet dialed in, along with a good cardio plan.

I've used both pharmaceutical grade and research chemical on the Arimidex. The pharmaceutical stuff worked great for me with the bloating issues, whereas the research stuff didn't appear to do as well. Got a new script from the doctor and I'm taking 0.5mg 2xwk and everything is back to normal (no bloats). My E2 used to be about where yours is. I'm holding on at/around a score of 25 with taking the Adex 2xWk, and I'm taking 200mg of Test C for my TRT. My primary doc would never give me an AI either, which was just one of the reasons that led me to seek out a HRT doc who knows what the hell they're doing.

Vetteman, I understand your new script is 0.5 mg 2xWk. But, what was your initial dose of pharmaceutical arimidex ?

[cypionate74]

fat in midsection cant be attributed to your trt...as above stated...diet...

....for me...trt did help trim the waistline when i started

You mentioned in another thread that you were also on arimidex . So, waist trimming is the effect of both diet and arimidex. That's what it sounds like. I don't have gyno issues. But, I get bloated.

[zaggahamma]

You mentioned in another thread that you were also on arimidex. So, waist trimming is the effect of both diet and arimidex. That's what it sounds like. I don't have gyno issues. But, I get bloated.

in my early stages of trt....i started losing body fat all while gaining stregth and building muscle...right after i added the arimidex , i noticed i became vascular...dont know if the combo of test /arimidex was a lot to credit that but my diet was never spot on...but it was calorie restricted/controlled

[Vettester]

Vetteman, I understand your new script is 0.5 mg 2xWk. But, what was your initial dose of pharmaceutical arimidex?

My initial prescription was for 3xWk on the 0.5mg. The doctor cut me back as my levels got lowered. I've got to run BW again in about 4 more weeks, we'll see where it's at.

[amcon]

before i put info below i will say very firmly that adex or any ai doesnt cut body fat... nor does it lower a persons waist line

if it did we would all be taking an ai - do you get that? did you hear that?

you are looking for an answer that you want to hear... that is dangerous - as i explain below

Thanks for the reply. I checked the Diet section. That's a lot of calories probably for bulking up. I work 9 hrs a day behind a computer. On Mon-Fri, I do cardio on treadmill at home because I am not able to go the gym. On Sat and Sun I go to the gym and lift weights and do cardio. I am 210 lbs and try to remain within 2000-2500 cal range. That diet plan has 5000+ calories.

issue is your behind a computer 9 hours a day... that is not good - a must for you income but some thing you must over come.

you do cardio at home how many times a week are you doing cardio? what is your intensity? what is your duration?

you 210 lbs and how tall? what is your age? what is your lifting history?

a 2000 cal diet is not enough food for you - watch this : if you get your body acustom to a 2000 cal diet and do cardio/weights - what you are actually doing is lowering you matabolism... now you have a matablism that works of of the lower food intake of 2000 cals. and you are not eating enough protien to rebuild what you have broken down during excersize...

the idea of eating more food is eating food that is in line with your goals (high protien - low carbs is what you want) what that will do is increase your matablism PLUS BUILD AND MATAIN LEAN BODY MASS!!!!!

note : if you search diet you can learn this not just look for a pill to fix what you dont want to hear or do... diet!!!! but diet correctly for you goals~

Vetteman, I understand your new script is 0.5 mg 2xWk. But, what was your initial dose of pharmaceutical arimidex?

who cares what his dose is it wont lower your body fat or lower your waist line... also - he is not you!!! he is dif than you. a dif person - with dif goals and just plan dif!!!!

You mentioned in another thread that you were also on arimidex. So, waist trimming is the effect of both diet and arimidex. That's what it sounds like. I don't have gyno issues. But, I get bloated.

waist trimming is the effect of both diet and arimidex ... NO NO NO!!!! you are very frustrating... you are looking for the answers you want to hear not what is real and functional...

arimidex lowers estrogen!!! - tell me why lowering or blocking estrogen will lower you body fat or you waist line?

will it stop bloating? yep - not bloting like your a chick and have your period - bloating like a few lbs of water spread all over you 210 lbs body!!! not just your waist.... get it? (i actually doubt it - prove me wrong and research adex or diet)

My initial prescription was for 3xWk on the 0.5mg. The doctor cut me back as my levels got lowered. I've got to run BW again in about 4 more weeks, we'll see where it's at.

who cares what your doc did it didnt make you waist smaller and that is his goal - vetteman listen he is trying to get a smaller waist by taking adex - does that make any sense?

[Vettester]

Amcon, you're correct (passionate, but correct). OP, listen to what he is saying. I probably should have taken a firmer approach with you this too, since my prescription situation is tailored for me, by my doctor. Like Amcon and everyone is saying, Arimidex will not work for burning fat. Don't look for it to be your solution in that area.

I know what you're going through to want to trim the waistline ... Believe me, I've been there. Actually, I'm still there at 12%BF and needing to get to 10%. Diet my friend, it's got to be clean and consistent. Tell us a little more about yourself if you don't mind. Some of the stats Amcon was asking about for starters, and anything else that is pertinent. Also, if you can find time, give us a breakdown of an average day with your diet schedule. A serious one; meaning what you really eat and how often you eat during those 9 hour intervals behind the computer. Many of us here have been through similar situations and we can throw you some ideas. I travel quite a bit for my job, so I know about having to improvise.

[amcon]

Amcon, you're correct (passionate, but correct). OP, listen to what he is saying. I probably should have taken a firmer approach with you this too, since my prescription situation is tailored for me, by my doctor. Like Amcon and everyone is saying, Arimidex will not work for burning fat. Don't look for it to be your solution in that area.

I know what you're going through to want to trim the waistline ... Believe me, I've been there. Actually, I'm still there at 12%BF and needing to get to 10%. Diet my friend, it's got to be clean and consistent. Tell us a little more about yourself if you don't mind. Some of the stats Amcon was asking about for starters, and anything else that is pertinent. Also, if you can find time, give us a breakdown of an average day with your diet schedule. A serious one; meaning what you really eat and how often you eat during those 9 hour intervals behind the computer. Many of us here have been through similar situations and we can throw you some ideas. I travel quite a bit for my job, so I know about having to improvise.

well said... and spot on !!!! bf = diet ... now research diet... and after diet come back with questions we will help

[lovbyts]

Im 5' 8" and started out at 205-210. I didnt use any airmidex or anything except got on HRT and learn to eat/diet. It takes time. It took at least 60-90 days before the fat started coming off then it was steady.

It's been said and I agree, it's not a race, it's a marathon. Stop being in such a rush/hurry. It' not good for you phycically to loose the fat to fast anyways. I have heard about it many times and saw it first hand. A co worker lost about 40 lbs in about 2 months due to a class reunion. A few weeks after his class reunion he had a heart attach.

He said he was going to change his diet/lifestyle due to the heart attach. Now his is over weight again but due to other family reunion upcoming want to loose the weight fast again. Some people never learn. Are the short term goals worth it? NO. It took you years to put the fat on, take the time to get it off naturally.

[cypionate74]

Thank you all for your willingness to help.
Age: 35 years, Height: 5'8", Current weight: 210 lbs
During early 2008, I was 180 lbs and had a 35" waist (max circumference of abdomen, not hip). I used to wear 36" waist pants. Based on my lab work, my testosterone was about 395 and I was not feeling good. My previous doctor didn't put me on therapy. So, I tried to raise my T level with Novedex XT (anti-aromatase T-booster). I felt strong on it and got more muscular while working out. I did not gain any fat on Novedex. After 2 months (in August 08), I decided to quit it. From August 08 to June 09, I gained fat around my midsection and was wearing 38 size pants with same diet as before. At that time my T-level was around 195 and my doctor decided to put me on TRT.

I have tried gel and now I am on cypionate 120 mg/week. Now, I am wearing 40" size pants.

My daily diet at work
I leave from home at 5 am. Before leaving I drink 1/2 serving of muscle milk (150 cal, 15 g protein)
5:30 am - Two whole grain bread slices with 1 teaspoon peanut butter and 1 teaspoon jelly.
8:30 am - 1 ounce of almond (approx 22 almonds), 1/2 bar of VPX zero impact protein (approx 200 cal, 15 g protein)
10 am - 1 apple
11:30 am - 210 cal chicken salad (46 g protein)
1 pm - 1 apple, remaining 1/2 bar of VPX zero impact protein (200 cal, 15 g protein)
4 pm (at home) - 4 deli turkey slices, handful of peanuts
5 pm-6 pm (treadmill) - interval training with high and low elevation
6:30 pm - 1 bar of Pure protein (200 cal, 20 g protein), 1 apple
9 pm - before going to bed, I drink 1/2 serving of muscle milk (150 cal, 15 g of protein)

On weekend, I do 40 minute cardio on eliptical and about 40 minute of strength training. I bench press 225 lbs. I can easily do 15 reps in one time. I usually stay at that weight. I once tried 275 lbs and was easily able to do 6 reps in one set. I also do seated squats. In short, I do whole body strength training on weekends.

The reason I mentioned about arimidex is because I have heard that when estrogen gets elevated (with TRT, even if in the normal range), fat increases. So, I am trying to control estrogen while increasing free testosterone. Free testosterone is the only thing that is of any use, not total. Arimidex should also help with bloating. I don't have gyno, but I get chest gets puffy at times. Just like amcon said, I feel puffy all over my upper body (only upper). This puffiness is not 24/7 but happens at irregular intervals. My current total T on seventh day (before my next shot) is 644 ng/dL. Free T = 1.53 ng/dL, estradiol = 44.1 pg/ml. And NO arimidex is not a fat burner. I wasn't trying to imply that.

[zaggahamma]

Thank you all for your willingness to help.
Age: 35 years, Height: 5'8", Current weight: 210 lbs
During early 2008, I was 180 lbs and had a 35" waist (max circumference of abdomen, not hip). I used to wear 36" waist pants. Based on my lab work, my testosterone was about 395 and I was not feeling good. My previous doctor didn't put me on therapy. So, I tried to raise my T level with Novedex XT (anti-aromatase T-booster). I felt strong on it and got more muscular while working out. I did not gain any fat on Novedex. After 2 months (in August 08), I decided to quit it. From August 08 to June 09, I gained fat around my midsection and was wearing 38 size pants with same diet as before. At that time my T-level was around 195 and my doctor decided to put me on TRT.

I have tried gel and now I am on cypionate 120 mg/week. Now, I am wearing 40" size pants.

My daily diet at work
I leave from home at 5 am. Before leaving I drink 1/2 serving of muscle milk (150 cal, 15 g protein)
5:30 am - Two whole grain bread slices with 1 teaspoon peanut butter and 1 teaspoon jelly.
8:30 am - 1 ounce of almond (approx 22 almonds), 1/2 bar of VPX zero impact protein (approx 200 cal, 15 g protein)
10 am - 1 apple
11:30 am - 210 cal chicken salad (46 g protein)
1 pm - 1 apple, remaining 1/2 bar of VPX zero impact protein (200 cal, 15 g protein)
4 pm (at home) - 4 deli turkey slices, handful of peanuts
5 pm-6 pm (treadmill) - interval training with high and low elevation
6:30 pm - 1 bar of Pure protein (200 cal, 20 g protein), 1 apple
9 pm - before going to bed, I drink 1/2 serving of muscle milk (150 cal, 15 g of protein)

On weekend, I do 40 minute cardio on eliptical and about 40 minute of strength training. I bench press 225 lbs. I can easily do 15 reps in one time. I usually stay at that weight. I once tried 275 lbs and was easily able to do 6 reps in one set. I also do seated squats. In short, I do whole body strength training on weekends.

The reason I mentioned about arimidex is because I have heard that when estrogen gets elevated (with TRT, even if in the normal range), fat increases. So, I am trying to control estrogen while increasing free testosterone. Free testosterone is the only thing that is of any use, not total. Arimidex should also help with bloating. I don't have gyno, but I get chest gets puffy at times. Just like amcon said, I feel puffy all over my upper body (only upper). This puffiness is not 24/7 but happens at irregular intervals. My current total T on seventh day (before my next shot) is 644 ng/dL. Free T = 1.53 ng/dL, estradiol = 44.1 pg/ml. And NO arimidex is not a fat burner. I wasn't trying to imply that.

so in essence..the AI isnt going to burn fat but if an AI is needed when on trt or to keep your test/estro ratio optimum, it will help your body distribute/metabolize fat..help but when diet and exercise are in check....hence why it worked for me

best of luck to you