Doc Perscribed Cyp

[eregitano]

Had my annual physical today, I'm a 34 year old, former athlete who still maintains a workout regiment and kickboxing. Since becoming a dad a couple years ago and a bunch of surgeries to repair my knees and badly arthritic shoulder things have slowed down, body fat has increased, libido decreased, tougher to get those impactful workouts I used to get.

So today the doc perscribed Test Cyp 200/cc per week. What should my expectations be? Should I use other things to make this more effective and not have negative effects? Doc wants me on for a year, however I've read it might be better to do 8-12 weeks on and some time off. How do I avoid being in a catabolic state? Any help would be appreciated! Thanks.

[eregitano]

I see a lot of anti-estrogen suggestions, at what point would one look to add an anti estro, how long would one take it for, and while taking it should one cut back on the cyp? What suggestions for best practices on type of anti-estro and dosage?

[durak]

I'll PM you some links (i think you need 10 posts first) with a good amount of information.

[eregitano]

I'll PM you some links (i think you need 10 posts first) with a good amount of information.

I need 10 posts before you can PM me?

Are you able to share any info within this thread? Thanks.

[eregitano]

Another question is whether or not I should cycle the Cyp, reading through the threads here it appears that most will cycle, however my doc mentioned me being on this for a year with blood work every 3 months or so. If I do cycle are there best practices to ensure one doesn't crash.

[RNMOVR]

Had my annual physical today, I'm a 34 year old, former athlete who still maintains a workout regiment and kickboxing. Since becoming a dad a couple years ago and a bunch of surgeries to repair my knees and badly arthritic shoulder things have slowed down, body fat has increased, libido decreased, tougher to get those impactful workouts I used to get.

So today the doc perscribed Test Cyp 200/cc per week. What should my expectations be? Should I use other things to make this more effective and not have negative effects? Doc wants me on for a year, however I've read it might be better to do 8-12 weeks on and some time off. How do I avoid being in a catabolic state? Any help would be appreciated! Thanks.

We are about the same age and I started when I was 28. You'll notice quicker gains/recovery, wood like a 14 year old school boy, and if your lucky moderate backne.. ha I started to have elevated estro levels, so my Dr added some Novla. Its cheap, you may want to go ahead and ask for some so you will have it on hand. I have ran it in cycles and for almost a year strait and can't really tell any difference except for the rare appearance of my balls during the full year.. If i was going to run it strait through again I would get some HCG . Thats just my experiance. Good luck

[durak]

I need 10 posts before you can PM me?

Are you able to share any info within this thread? Thanks.

Don't think so because they are links to threads on other forums and websites.

You either need 10 or it is not turned on.

[eregitano]

We are about the same age and I started when I was 28. You'll notice quicker gains/recovery, wood like a 14 year old school boy, and if your lucky moderate backne.. ha I started to have elevated estro levels, so my Dr added some Novla. Its cheap, you may want to go ahead and ask for some so you will have it on hand. I have ran it in cycles and for almost a year strait and can't really tell any difference except for the rare appearance of my balls during the full year.. If i was going to run it strait through again I would get some HCG. Thats just my experiance. Good luck

good info, is HCG something I can ask a doc for or something I'd have to get on the side? How long were each cycle you did, and how did you run your cycles meaning did you phase it down or just stop for a few weeks then start back up. Also did you take the novla throughout or just toward the end. Thank much.

[eregitano]

Don't think so because they are links to threads on other forums and websites.

You either need 10 or it is not turned on.

got it, should only need one more after this.

[eregitano]

Don't think so because they are links to threads on other forums and websites.

You either need 10 or it is not turned on.

should be good to go now unless it's one of those deals that takes some time to process.

[RNMOVR]

good info, is HCG something I can ask a doc for or something I'd have to get on the side? How long were each cycle you did, and how did you run your cycles meaning did you phase it down or just stop for a few weeks then start back up. Also did you take the novla throughout or just toward the end. Thank much.

My Dr is kind of limited in what she will prescribe. I bought some through a rejuvenation clinic and simply used my existing blood work to negate some of the fees. I would simply ask your Dr. Normally they only say no when they are unfamiliar with something. But if you go in and talk a good game, he may try or at least research it some more.

Most of the cycles were 12-14 weeks. I tryed weening myself off and didn't see a difference. PCT is something you need to look into if you are going to cycle it that way. I used clomid/novla throughout my PCT. I think some HCG would have helped. There are plenty of great PCT posts and stickys on this forum. Do some digging and you'll find a plethora of information.

[eregitano]

My Dr is kind of limited in what she will prescribe. I bought some through a rejuvenation clinic and simply used my existing blood work to negate some of the fees. I would simply ask your Dr. Normally they only say no when they are unfamiliar with something. But if you go in and talk a good game, he may try or at least research it some more.

Most of the cycles were 12-14 weeks. I tryed weening myself off and didn't see a difference. PCT is something you need to look into if you are going to cycle it that way. I used clomid/novla throughout my PCT. I think some HCG would have helped. There are plenty of great PCT posts and stickys on this forum. Do some digging and you'll find a plethora of information.

great, thanks again for the good info. Do you begin your PCT toward the end of the cycle or all after cycle was complete and approx how long did PCT last for you? Did you jump right back on cycle post PCT or did you wait a few weeks? Thanks.

[RNMOVR]

I'll PM you some links (i think you need 10 posts first) with a good amount of information.

I think its up to 25 posts...

[ottomaddox]

If your doctor is prescribing testosterone it's obviously for some reason, right? Why would you want to cycle it if you have an unlimited supply for the next year and beyond???????????? What to expect, loss of body fat, increased labido, overall feeling of well being, lowered cholesterol, I could go on forever, but you can do some research too.

Had my annual physical today, I'm a 34 year old, former athlete who still maintains a workout regiment and kickboxing. Since becoming a dad a couple years ago and a bunch of surgeries to repair my knees and badly arthritic shoulder things have slowed down, body fat has increased, libido decreased, tougher to get those impactful workouts I used to get.

So today the doc perscribed Test Cyp 200/cc per week. What should my expectations be? Should I use other things to make this more effective and not have negative effects? Doc wants me on for a year, however I've read it might be better to do 8-12 weeks on and some time off. How do I avoid being in a catabolic state? Any help would be appreciated! Thanks.

[RNMOVR]

great, thanks again for the good info. Do you begin your PCT toward the end of the cycle or all after cycle was complete and approx how long did PCT last for you? Did you jump right back on cycle post PCT or did you wait a few weeks? Thanks.

I front load the Novla about 5-7 days before starting and optimally will use HCG half way through my cycle to keep my natural test pumping and my balls from playing peek-a-boo. The clomid starts at the end of the cycle along with HCG (optimally). I'll have to look back at my calender and see how long I ran it last time. I'll look and get back with you. I normally waited 6-8 weeks to go back on, but sometimes early if I got to feeling real bad. I would love to run all year all the time, but just don't know about the long term effects of running synthetic compound through your body.

I'm looking into bio-identical Test, but haven't found a whole lot of info on it. I think they make it from yams and it supposed to have no side effects. But what the call a side effect may be what some of us use test for.. Anybody with a good link or info on Bio-identical hormones speak up..

[Epic Ed]

I wouldn't think you'll need an AI at 200mg EW, but everyone is different. I'd hold off on buying one unless you notice symptoms of high E2 levels.

Cycling TRT? Depends on what your goals are, I suppose, but I'm not planning to ever come off. I don't think my body can produce enough test naturally for me to be in a good range. If you do come off of TRT, then running hCG during your cycle is a good idea to keep the boys functioning. Follow it up with a regular PCT for a test cycle and see what you get. If your levels stay low then you're probably in "the club" -- those of us who are on it for good.

[RNMOVR]

I wouldn't think you'll need an AI at 200mg EW, but everyone is different. I'd hold off on buying one unless you notice symptoms of high E2 levels.

Cycling TRT? Depends on what your goals are, I suppose, but I'm not planning to ever come off. I don't think my body can produce enough test naturally for me to be in a good range. If you do come off of TRT, then running hCG during your cycle is a good idea to keep the boys functioning. Follow it up with a regular PCT for a test cycle and see what you get. If your levels stay low then you're probably in "the club" -- those of us who are on it for good.

I guess I needed it at 200mg because I must estro sensitive. My generic Novla (tamoxifen citrate) is less than $10 with my insurance. I simply figured it would be better to have it immediately ready than have to make an appointment and go through that process. Or you could get it pretty fast from Lion (arr). I've never tried their tomox, but have used their letro with great results.

Like I said i've experimented both ways. I'm not saying one is better than the other. The disadvantge to the cycling is that you may have a rough patch of feeling like crap in between, but my big concern are the side affects of using a lifetime synthetic drug.. I've also tried cycling a higher does, but not getting off of the 200mg. I still did pct.

[zaggahamma]

i would be surprised if an ai wouldnt be needed with long term use at 200mg ew

[anabolic1979]

why would u stop if ur being put on trt?

[RNMOVR]

why would u stop if ur being put on trt?

I do it because I'm paranoid about the long term effects of putting a synthetic compound in my body. May not be right or wrong. Thats why I am looking into bio-identical hormones. This could solely be a concern of mine, but our bodies tend to react to repeated use of non natural things.

[eregitano]

i would be surprised if an ai wouldnt be needed with long term use at 200mg ew

what's AI? Sorry I'm a newb.

[eregitano]

what suggestions out there for a addition to the Test E that will help keep water retention down and assist with leaning- yet mild when it comes to the hairline.

[zaggahamma]

what's AI? Sorry I'm a newb.

ai stands for aromatase inhibitor

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aromatase_inhibitor