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    deca: low dose or cycle?

    I had posted about this in a previous thread but it wasnt relative tot eh topic so I wanted to start a new one. I am on test Cyp 100mg a week. I think I would benefit from deca greatly for muscle mass, decreased joint pain, and improved immune function. I have some deca on hand. Would it be better to do a low dose along with my TRT or simply save it for when I run another cycle?

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    I'm certainly no vet, but I'm currently in a very similar position as you. I spoke too soon in my post above and have continued to have some E.D. issues. My libido is great! I wanna bang everything that has a hole in it and isn't tied down. But -- I've had some performance issues this last week. Part of it seems to be I was taking too much AI and my E2 levels had tanked, part of it may be a staph infection and corresponding antibiotics I'm taking, but I also believe the deca I'm taking is contributing to the problem.

    I'm running a low dose of deca for joint pain to see if it will help with osteoarthritis (240mg EW). Those of us who are already susceptible to E.D. issues are probably going to be a bit more sensitive to deca dick. If you do add deca you had better be prepared to bump up your TRT dose. I'm running my test at nearly a 2:1 ratio with deca. I've raised my test dose to 400mg EW, and like I said, I'm sufficiently horny, but I just ordered some liquid cialis to help with the intermittent limp-dick problems. So, if you add deca be prepared with some cialis (or similar) on hand to facilitate the mattress mambo. You may not need it, but it's better to have it on hand. You may also want to order a prolactin antagonizer (like prami) to counteract the side effect of deca, though if you're running a low dose you probably won't need it. I haven't ordered and prami yet because I don't think my problems are prolactin related.

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    I'm running deca with my TRT. Running it for 12 weeks then give it a rest.

    Deca will help with the joints, mass, etc. You will probably want to start with at least 200mg/wk to see any of the benefits. However, you will also want to up your Test Cyp to about the same dosage to avoid any of the sides like deca dick. In my case, I'm taking 200mg/wk of cyp and my deca ranges from 220mg-to-240mg. That works OK with me, but I wouldn't want to stretch it any further than that.

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    I just stepped off 10wks deca .
    200mg deca
    210mg Tcyp

    No problems what so ever with Deca dick. If Test therapy isn't improving your love life it may not be the cause of your ED and you need to talk with you DR.

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    Thanks for all of the replies fellas. Since I am only on 100mg a week of test Cyp I would prolly only run 50mg of deca in order to avoid problems, but that hardly seems worth it, so maybe I will just save the deca for when I run a cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raziel View Post
    Thanks for all of the replies fellas. Since I am only on 100mg a week of test Cyp I would prolly only run 50mg of deca in order to avoid problems, but that hardly seems worth it, so maybe I will just save the deca for when I run a cycle.
    My dad is in a similar situation with knee and shoulder pain from his younger years in college athletics. He's 48 now on trt and the glucosamine isn't helping him a bit.. Back in the 80's he used deca and liked it a lot, and I told him how it helps lube the joints. He's very excited to try it out, but only for the joint lubing properties of it. He could care less about using it for mass, just his joints. he weighs 275, And I am not sure how much to recommend to him.. thinking 150mg ew would be the most I'd want him to take, but if you think 50mg ew may work I figure why not make the vial last that much longer. If you could please keep us posted with how this works out for you I would really appreciate it. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by asto_86 View Post
    My dad is in a similar situation with knee and shoulder pain from his younger years in college athletics. He's 48 now on trt and the glucosamine isn't helping him a bit.. Back in the 80's he used deca and liked it a lot, and I told him how it helps lube the joints. He's very excited to try it out, but only for the joint lubing properties of it. He could care less about using it for mass, just his joints. he weighs 275, And I am not sure how much to recommend to him.. thinking 150mg ew would be the most I'd want him to take, but if you think 50mg ew may work I figure why not make the vial last that much longer. If you could please keep us posted with how this works out for you I would really appreciate it. Thanks!
    If you could, please start a new thread and I'm sure plenty will chime in.

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    I have been on deca for a few months now(200mg a week). No sides yet, but I ordered some caber tabs to be safe. Should I take caber if no sides appear?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raziel View Post
    Thanks for all of the replies fellas. Since I am only on 100mg a week of test Cyp I would prolly only run 50mg of deca in order to avoid problems, but that hardly seems worth it, so maybe I will just save the deca for when I run a cycle.
    I am on 120mg trt and have been taking 180mg of deca with no issus so far for the past three weeks. I am probably going to bump the test to 160mg a week.

    If i were you i would try pinning 100mg with your 100mg of test.

    I really like adding the deca so far. I feel better, stronger, faster...

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    The drive for sex is def there, I want it all the damn time, just erection firmness isnt as great as it should be. Since I have only switched from androgel to the injections about a month ago, I dunno if my doc is gona be okay with upping my weekly dosage, but I will give his office a call on Monday and see what my options are.

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    wow lol. called his office and according to his lil helper lady, they have never even heard of deca , jesus christ why are doctors so damn stupid. give me 10 minutes on googe and I can probablly know about as much as a guy in a white coat. My shoulder has really been flaring up and bothering me lately. I ordered some cissus and some other joint health productys but i really think deca would help me greatly, I just cant dose it high at all since my TRT dose is only 100mgs a week =/ fuuuuuuuuu

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raziel View Post
    wow lol. called his office and according to his lil helper lady, they have never even heard of deca, jesus christ why are doctors so damn stupid. give me 10 minutes on googe and I can probablly know about as much as a guy in a white coat. My shoulder has really been flaring up and bothering me lately. I ordered some cissus and some other joint health productys but i really think deca would help me greatly, I just cant dose it high at all since my TRT dose is only 100mgs a week =/ fuuuuuuuuu
    Don't feel too alone here ... I had the same thing happen one time with my primary doc. Asked her about Deca and she said, "Deck who?" After she looked it up and discovered what it was, she lectured me about roid rage .

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    I really think you will be fine with a 1 to 1 dose with test

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    well my shoulder has goten so bad that i sceduled an apointment with my doc, i may possibly have to go under the knife

    I would really like to avoid surgery, but we will see.Hell I will need to do a cyce just to get back to where I am now after the surgery and the months of physical therapy

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    Done my first shot of Deca 300mg yesterday along with 150mg of Test,going to see how I react to the Deca over 12-14 weeks then maybe lower the dose if it works for the joints,would like to hear updates from you who are using Deca for this purpose !!!!

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    Deca works great for joint pain Jeffers, and you will put on some size at the dose you are taking. I have been on it for over 2 months with no problems.

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