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    Exclamation Just turned 19, very low testosterone! PLEASE HELP ME!

    Hello, I am 19 years old, and my testosterone levels are hovering around 2.0 (on a scale of 10-30, sorry I do not know the units). My endocrinologist figures I am secondary hypogonadic since I did the GNRH test, and I did produce LH/FSH. My levels of these hormones have also been relatively low.

    Now in terms of the reasons for these numbers, I can't help but think I have always been low on testosterone . I had very little interest in sexual activity as a teenager, and in fact the thought of being intimate with a girl seems a bit scary to me. Sex was never something I aspired to take part in, but I was able to masturbate to porn. I also had very little muscle growth (basically none) even though I started working out around 13. I also have very little body hair and almost no facial hair. If I do grow hair on my face it is patchy and thin. However, the kicker is that I started eating a low calorie diet with very little carbs and exercising excessively last summer and dropped about 10 lbs. I am 6 foot and I went from around 148 lbs to around 136 lbs (I was not at this weight for very long) This continued on until about November when I started to eat A LOT more food. I still exercised a lot though. During this period, and up to today I have had NO sex drive, I feel tired a lot, and I have fallen into a state of really bad depression. Lots of this depression is due to the fact that my favorite activity of bodybuilding has been taken from me (or rather I took it from myself), and I know that any efforts in the gym are basically useless. Lately I haven't been exercising lots, just swimming and biking about 4 times a week.

    My endocrinologist put me on 25 mg/day of clomid for 6 weeks starting in February. No effect. We then tried 50 mg/day for 6 weeks. No effect. He said since clomid can act as either an agonist or antagonist in some cases, my levels might come back to normal when I come off. I have been off for about 3 weeks now and I still don't believe I am producing test. I go to his clinic in about 2 weeks to run a test were they measure levels of LH/FSH continuously for 4 hours and see if there is variability. I don't quite understand this test, but he says it's the next step, so I'm just doing what the professional says. Anyways, he says that after this test, and depending on the results he will give me a prescription for testosterone. I really want to take it, even though I know it's for life. I will be able to get back to the life that I have put on hold ever since my levels dropped. I have felt like shit for a year already, and to me it just doesn't seem like taking one minute out of my day to slap on some gel, or taking a shot once a week is such an inconvenience. It sure is not such an inconvenience that I am going to go through another year like this. At the moment all I think about is my low testosterone , and it has weighed down on every aspect of my life like you wouldn't believe. I break down at least twice a week simply because I do not know what the hell to do. I've seen so many forums where people on TRT say "exhaust all of your options", "wait it out", "you're too young for this", but at the same time I question why the individuals offering this advice are on TRT themselves. Surely their lives must be better with it than when they had low testosterone, or else they wouldn't be taking it. Furthermore, a large portion of the people on TRT had levels just below the normal range when they started. I am so far from normal that I can't help but think getting me on the higher end of that suggested range would drastically increase my quality of life!

    Could I maybe run a trial period for 4 months and see what it does for me? If I do not feel any better and come off, my body will just begin producing the minimal levels that I already have once again as far as I understand.

    If anyone could offer me opinions/experiences related to treatment I would really appreciate it, especially young guys. Should I begin treatment and get on with my life? If so, what would you recommend for doseage/type of testosterone (gel, shots, etc.)?

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    Derg03 understand that the majority of folks who get the "you're too young for this" speech are the kids who are seeking to build themselves up to impress the girls or the young athletes looking for something more than a competetive edge (for scholarship reasons or professional ambitions).

    The option to go down this road carries with it implications if not done correctly and most of these kids, lacking any amount of maturity are only interested in the here and now and give no consideration to the future.

    The warnings from folks on these and other forums are definitely not for folks like you who obviously have a medical condition that has led to the diagnosis you have received. You have lived with this problem for some time. A bit longer will not hurt. Taking baby steps forward at this point is better than taking no steps at all. Give your doctor the time he needs to get to the root of the problem so he can dispense the medication needed in doses that will be of benefit to you.

    Good luck and keep us informed
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    Agree with Jupiter, let the doc run his course. He's checking for any variances with your pituitary gland to see if they can't determine why it won't produce sufficient LH levels. The low LH levels are keeping your testes from producing a normal level of testosterone .

    TRT more than likely won't be a 4 month trial program that you can come off of.

    Sorry you're going through this at such a young age. We're here to help, please keep us posted with your progress. Good luck!

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    your pretty unlucky for someone your age to experience this, but dw things will get better, im sure TRT will improve your life alot.

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    Dam man, feel for you bro. Stick with the Doc until he has run all his tests and then your know you have done all that can be done before TRT.

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    A pituitary stim tes is ridiculous in most cases.. Yes your
    Potuitary can make lh and fsh in the amounts needed but it is not.. So what it can do becomes irrelivent. There wont be a miracle..

    If your secondary hcg is an issues.. A smart dr can try a hpta restart like jump starting a car that is your best bet but looks like the doc is trying that?

    Have you looked into adrenals thyroid do you onow your e2. Shbg any other tests..

    Im 23 and now on trt. I have other issues but i feel better..

    Just believe there is hope because there is..

    There is no need to trial trt it works and yes yo will feel better... But there could be many factors involved.

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    What do you mean by "HCG is an issue"? Is HCG my next option should my levels come back low, or does this type of treatment not apply to my case? Also, the thing I found most interesting was that I did not respond to the clomid at a 25 nor 50 mg dosage. It seems like everyone who takes clomid responds with very high FSH/LH levels, and this usually results in higher test. Of course, a large portion of these patients do not hold these levels when they come off, but I didn't even get any results while I was on the drug.

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    anyone else with suggestions??

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