I received a call from my GP last night and he says...

[chuckt12345]

WELL for one 2 shots spread out by 2 months will not get your levels to plateu. Some people natural test levels will stay higher than they were before after they get off a trial TRT. Thats prb why he wants to do it, but i have never heard such a short trial.

im back to 200mg e2w and i dont experience up and downs, all i do notice is usually a few days after shot my sex drive is at its highest point in the 2 wks then drops a little towards the end

[Times Roman]

WELL for one 2 shots spread out by 2 months will not get your levels to plateu. Some people natural test levels will stay higher than they were before after they get off a trial TRT. Thats prb why he wants to do it, but i have never heard such a short trial.

im back to 200mg e2w and i dont experience up and downs, all i do notice is usually a few days after shot my sex drive is at its highest point in the 2 wks then drops a little towards the end

yeah, i've been drilling the woman almost every day. she's on her period right now, so I've been working on her all day for some oral tonight..... test is great stuff!!!

[Times Roman]

get this. I asked my GP if we could switch from 200mg cyp eow to 100mg cyp ew, and he said....
"I am not comfortable doing anything outside of the standard protocol that people use for testosterone when free testosterone is low( yours was normal as you recall). "

btw.. my free test was 67 and my total test was 211.

I told him I understand his position.

Anyone know of any clinical reference material I can stick under his nose that may get him to change his mind?

[Vettester]

get this. I asked my GP if we could switch from 200mg cyp eow to 100mg cyp ew, and he said....
"I am not comfortable doing anything outside of the standard protocol that people use for testosterone when free testosterone is low( yours was normal as you recall). "

btw.. my free test was 67 and my total test was 211.

I told him I understand his position.

Anyone know of any clinical reference material I can stick under his nose that may get him to change his mind?

Roman, I might have told him that I DON'T understand his position. Again, this is Kaiser, so nothing surprises me with them.

Were you able to get anywhere with them on HCG ?

[Times Roman]

Roman, I might have told him that I DON'T understand his position. Again, this is Kaiser, so nothing surprises me with them.

Were you able to get anywhere with them on HCG?

well, I'm almost at the two month mark on TRT, and originally, he said he would only go two months on me, so I'm not pushing it for right now. maybe later. In fact, if he IS only going two months on me, then my final injection would be next thursday... so fingers crossed.

... and the HCG ? (laughs)... yeah, that. Well, I'm still letting my fuzzies grow down there before I go see the urologist. I trimmed my shit up pretty good down there cuz the woman likes it, but now I'm wishing I didn't. So I'll probably wait another two weeks before going in. But I'll let you know what happens, since I know you were trying to get kaiser to go that route, and they disagreed with you for some reason. I'll keep you posted.

---roman

[Epic Ed]

Has he answered that one question for you yet? You know -- "WHAT IS THE HALF LIFE OF TESTOSTERONE CYPIONATE ?" If he's unable to answer that question or says anything greater than 8 days, please tell him he's too incompetent to be making protocol decisions about TRT.

[Times Roman]

Has he answered that one question for you yet? You know -- "WHAT IS THE HALF LIFE OF TESTOSTERONE CYPIONATE?" If he's unable to answer that question or says anything greater than 8 days, please tell him he's too incompetent to be making protocol decisions about TRT.

yeah, except two endos at kaiser td'd my trt request, and he made the exception for me. If I piss the guy off, he could 86 my whole trt program. this is going to be a battle of inches with him. first step is to make sure I survive the two month mark.

[Times Roman]

Well, I convinced my gp to go another 3 months of test cyp.... here is what he had to say....
"Roman, I understand your situation and can't explain your improvement. I am definitely not going to promise you that I will do this indefinitely but I will continue it for now. We can send you to a urologist or another endocrinologist in a few months. Also, I would advise recheck of psa and free/total testosterone in 3 months. Please understand that we are trying to keep you out of harm's way."

So with a 67/211 test blood level (free/total), he doesn't understand how test can improve libido? He seems to think my test is in a normal range.

With Kaiser, hammering your GP on the libido issues seems to get their attention.

[ItsShadowTimeBuddy]

my woman and i (like everyone else) play bedroom games. for some reason, she goes crazy when I shave down there, and when I do that, will give oral til the cows come home....... she likes to play the "delay" game, you know, right before I cum, she'll stop until i get it under control again. then start up again. the game can literally go hours, or until her jaw starts locking up, which ever comes first.

anyways, my gp says i have to see a urologist before writing the hcg. now i'm thinking damn! i don't want this person to think i'm some kind of perv by being all shaven down there... so now I wait a month until the fuzzies grow back..... but the good news is that my kaiser doc didn't say NO to the hcg right off the bat. I'll keep you posted.

LMAO I was fully shorn at my recent appointment. I usually say, "I do some independent film work" as I drop 'em. Usually gets a laugh, but not always. I figure most docs have interned in ER's and have met every clown in the circus already. This kind of thing is small potatoes--no pun intended.

[streeter]

I know a guy who gets pellets under his skin. I believe that lasts a few months or at least a month but I never heard of any injection covering that time frame.

[Times Roman]

Times, I presumed you would be seeing these issues with kaiser when you made your first post about going to Kaiser. Also, no AI or HCG with them, and they will probably want you in their lab for your shots. Good luck.

Went to the urologist yesterday. and the correct answer is.... (drumroll please!)

You are right. She has never issued an Rx for HCG ... period!

She wanted to examine my junk, so I told her only if she keeps her hands behind her back, then she can "examine" it all she wants.

bada bing~!

Here was an eyeopener for me. We discussed dose rate for cyp, and she said eow is fine. I'm like how's that? It drops off after the 11th day. She said after 5 halflifes on an eow plan with cyp, the blood levels of test become very stable.

So I ran home and looked it up. I was in error. Cyp has a "half life" of 12 days. I was thinking it had an "active" life of 12 days, so, from my perspective, no need to go from eow to ew.

Sometimes, I just need to come up for air and pull my head out my asss.

Life goes on mates!

BTW... I go in for my second injection for my knee today. Stuff works!!

[Times Roman]

I know a guy who gets pellets under his skin. I believe that lasts a few months or at least a month but I never heard of any injection covering that time frame.

HCG pellets? I've heard of test pellets, but maintaining steady blood levels is a problem.