Kick Start "The Boys"

**sirupate** · 10-01-2010, 10:54 AM

Just curious and have a question. If after having been on TRT for about nine months and you wanted to kick-start "the boys" again, which med. and what dose would you use? Would your preferred choice be clomid or HCG ? Do you maintain a continuous level of either med., or do you cycle one of them? Is there a better choice than either clomid or HCG? Thanks for any replies.

sirp

**flatscat** · 10-01-2010, 11:08 AM

Just wondering which way you are leaning after your research?

**sirupate** · 10-01-2010, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by flatscat

Just wondering which way you are leaning after your research?

I haven't done enough research to have a feel for it yet. I was hoping someone else here had done some homework, or has actual experience with the question. In reading about clomid, it seems to have the same problem with your body's feedback loop as does testosterone ....that is, if you provide an exogenous source, your body then makes less. So maybe a continuous level of medication isn't the way to go.

sirp

**zaggahamma** · 10-01-2010, 12:57 PM

hcg ...and yes most will run a continuous dose along with the rest of their TRT

**flatscat** · 10-01-2010, 01:14 PM

Of course we will help you - but the best way to form your own opinion other than trial and error is to read other's experiences and as you know this place if full of them. No way are you going to get 1/1000 of the info from replies to this thread as you would from this site as a whole and the internet.

I would run HCG 250 twice a week to start with, you can back down from that and see if 250 or 300 once a week meets your needs.
But there are many different protocols, and many other factors to consider such as your lab results. HCG might increase t production, could also effect E2 and free t + others.

I am sure you will get some different answers here, just do some of your own homework so you can make a somewhat informed decision if you are not going to be taking it under a doc's supervision.

hope that helps

**Vettester** · 10-02-2010, 10:17 AM

HCG would be the route to go. You will need to adjust your test dosage to compensate the endogenous production that will occur with taking HCG, as mentioned by Flats. I presume you didn't go on TRT due to any primary testicular conditions?

**sirupate** · 10-04-2010, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by vetteman08

HCG would be the route to go. You will need to adjust your test dosage to compensate the endogenous production that will occur with taking HCG, as mentioned by Flats. I presume you didn't go on TRT due to any primary testicular conditions?

No. The doc thinks it is pituitary. I do bloodwork in about a week and visit the endo a week after that.

**Vettester** · 10-04-2010, 01:25 PM

Yea, then HCG for sure if it's pituitary. Smaller, continuous dosages as mentioned above will be your best bet.

**sirupate** · 10-05-2010, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by flatscat

Of course we will help you - but the best way to form your own opinion other than trial and error is to read other's experiences and as you know this place if full of them. No way are you going to get 1/1000 of the info from replies to this thread as you would from this site as a whole and the internet.

I would run HCG 250 twice a week to start with, you can back down from that and see if 250 or 300 once a week meets your needs.
But there are many different protocols, and many other factors to consider such as your lab results. HCG might increase t production, could also effect E2 and free t + others.

I am sure you will get some different answers here, just do some of your own homework so you can make a somewhat informed decision if you are not going to be taking it under a doc's supervision.

hope that helps

Until today, I had never looked around at the rest of Site forums...just staying in this one There is a lot of information there, so my apologies for having asked without looking around first. I had sort of assumed that since I'm not really a bodybuilder, that the rest of the Site would not be of interest to me. I was wrong...lots of good information here.

Jeff

**dosXX** · 10-05-2010, 09:59 AM

another option or a good addition to HCG is HMG very expensive though but effective as the several clinical studies concluded.

**flatscat** · 10-05-2010, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by sirupate

Until today, I had never looked around at the rest of Site forums...just staying in this one There is a lot of information there, so my apologies for having asked without looking around first. I had sort of assumed that since I'm not really a bodybuilder, that the rest of the Site would not be of interest to me. I was wrong...lots of good information here.

Jeff

Jeff, we are glad you are here - and we all will help any way we can bro. Ton's of stuff here huh? Check out my first post in this thread:

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...and-this-board.

flats

**ds53** · 10-09-2010, 09:42 PM

Doc started me on HCG at 500 for 5 days, then 250 every 3 days. Worked pretty good got balls back very quickly. If I feel like they are trying to shrink again, I do 500 twice a week for a week and back to 250 every 3 days. This will help your libido also as it kicks your nat test levels up pretty good.

**Calcium** · 10-09-2010, 10:28 PM

Originally Posted by dosXX

another option or a good addition to HCG is HMG very expensive though but effective as the several clinical studies concluded.

I've read some read some great reviews on that stuff bud, not seen it around though

**Alloy** · 10-10-2010, 12:54 PM

HCG is an awesome hormone. I've been on 300iu / 2X week and feel very good. I've been on it for 5 weeks along with Anastrazole and the libido is very good. Along with that I've seen some weight lose around the gut that is an added plus. I would defiantly recommend it.