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    trt at 20yrs old

    sadly my test levels are far to low and im being prescribed testogel at only 20 years old. ive never cycled before so i just got bad luck with it.

    question is what are the chances of gyno coming in with it? also i planned on cutting in a few months is it ok to use eca and maybe albuterol whilst using the gel?

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    Gyno shouldnt apear on a low dose, but if you are going to increase the dose think about using a AI to prevent gyno from forming. like l-dex

    What did your blood test show? please post the results

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    Quote Originally Posted by big_ron View Post
    Gyno shouldnt apear on a low dose, but if you are going to increase the dose think about using a AI to prevent gyno from forming. like l-dex

    What did your blood test show? please post the results
    ah ok, nah i dont think im going to increase the dosage, just stick to what he told me. umm this was my first blood test results

    test 229.9- pmoI/L
    free test 9.5- nmoI/L
    estro- <37* ave range 40-60

    i then was refered to a specialist and he did another and my free test was at 8.1 so he put me on the gel today

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    agree with ron

    you're very young for trt can you tell us how/why you came to this point of looking/starting into trt

    welcome to the board

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpkman View Post
    agree with ron

    you're very young for trt can you tell us how/why you came to this point of looking/starting into trt

    welcome to the board
    yeah sure, hmm id say the last 8 months id been feeling very lethargic, very very low libido, gain stomach fat quite easily and around nipples and so on with the symptoms. originally i thought i might have possible high estro levels so i just wanted to get some blood tests done, i actually have low estro levels it turns out ,then was passed off to a specialist about the libido, he gave me cialis for 2 weeks which really didnt do much. whilst doing another blood test, test came back lower so it was in his opinion that i use trt and may be some problem with my pituitary glands
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    sounds strange they'd give test and say hmmmmm maybe a prob with your pituitary

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    Quote Originally Posted by vetek12 View Post
    ah ok, nah i dont think im going to increase the dosage, just stick to what he told me. umm this was my first blood test results

    test 229.9- pmoI/L
    free test 9.5- nmoI/L
    estro- <37* ave range 40-60

    i then was refered to a specialist and he did another and my free test was at 8.1 so he put me on the gel today
    are you sure that their your test results?

    your total test is in pico moles and free is in nano moles... that means you have more free test then total test lol... somethings wrong here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevey_6t9 View Post
    are you sure that their your test results?

    your total test is in pico moles and free is in nano moles... that means you have more free test then total test lol... somethings wrong here.
    im not to educated about what all the little pmno and nmo are but its just what i copied off the paper results, lol i got no idea

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    As long as the gel is putting you within normal testosterone parameters, your body will react just like anyone who is producing a good amount of test naturally (except you'll actually be less estrogen prone since topical test tends to undergo 5a-reductase more than natural or injected test). So yeah, you can use ECA or whatever else any natural can use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpkman View Post
    sounds strange they'd give test and say hmmmmm maybe a prob with your pituitary
    Agree. At 20 years old, I would think they would be running MRI's and trying to rule out everything. It's not normal to just start having pituitary failure at 20.

    Presume they ran some other tests like LH/FSH to lead them in this direction? If so, do you have those numbers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vetteman08 View Post
    Agree. At 20 years old, I would think they would be running MRI's and trying to rule out everything. It's not normal to just start having pituitary failure at 20.

    Presume they ran some other tests like LH/FSH to lead them in this direction? If so, do you have those numbers?
    yeah i was hoping i didnt need it but its what he recommenced i use to try raise my levels, he didnt print off the second tests so im not sure what was exactly tested, i think im waiting on 1 more test to be sent back on my x/y chromosomes to check if they are normal and then i might get them

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    let us know how u go...

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    Quote Originally Posted by vetek12 View Post
    yeah i was hoping i didnt need it but its what he recommenced i use to try raise my levels, he didnt print off the second tests so im not sure what was exactly tested, i think im waiting on 1 more test to be sent back on my x/y chromosomes to check if they are normal and then i might get them
    even more interesting...

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    Where are you located?

    Are you primary or secondary?

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