Natural Test Levels

**powerws** · 10-07-2010, 07:56 AM

Does anyone have a chart or thread explaining how natural free test is measured, and what typical or normal levels are? I will be going to get blood work done in a few weeks, which will be 4 weeks after torem and tamox pct of 5 weeks. I definitely can get it up and last through the sex session, but the drive is less. Concerned that my test didn't come back fully. Also, isn't it true that test after each cycle comes back less and less? Concerned about even doing a 12 week test e cycle.

**powerws** · 10-07-2010, 01:59 PM

bump. Anyone?

**CMB** · 10-07-2010, 03:04 PM

What was your cycle and dosages for it? What were your doses for pct? How old are you? And no its not true. I recover differently depending on the compounds. I recovered better than ever on my last cycle.

**flatscat** · 10-07-2010, 03:14 PM

you can pay me later

Appendix
Average Total and Free Testosterone Levels in Men by Age Group

Two studies of Sex Hormone Levels in men, by age group (1)
Mean Plasma Sex Hormone Level in healthy men (2)
Measurements in European Units (nmol/L)
Age Number of Subjects Total Testosterone Standard Deviation Free Testosterone Standard Deviation SHBG Standard Deviation
25-34 45 21.38 5.9 0.428 0.098 35.5 8.8
35-44 22 23.14 7.36 0.356 0.043 40.1 7.9
45-54 23 21.02 7.37 0.314 0.075 44.6 8.2
55-64 43 19.49 6.75 0.288 0.073 45.5 8.8
65-74 47 18.15 6.83 0.239 0.078 48.7 14.2
75-84 48 16.32 5.85 0.207 0.081 51 22.7
85-100 21 13.05 4.63 0.186 0.08 65.9 22.8

Testosterone measurements converted to ng/dl
Age Number of Subjects Total Testosterone Standard Deviation Free Testosterone Standard Deviation SHBG (nmol/L.) Standard Deviation
25-34 45 617 170 12.3 2.8 35.5 8.8
35-44 22 668 212 10.3 1.2 40.1 7.9
45-54 23 606 213 9.1 2.2 44.6 8.2
55-64 43 562 195 8.3 2.1 45.5 8.8
65-74 47 524 197 6.9 2.3 48.7 14.2
75-84 48 471 169 6 2.3 51 22.7
85-100 21 376 134 5.4 2.3 65.9 22.8

Plasma Total Testosterone in healthy non-diabetic men (3)
Measurements in European Units (nmol/L)
Age Number of Subjects Mean Standard Deviation Median 5th Percentile 10th Percentile 95th Percentile
< 25 125 23.97 5.48 24.15 14.15 16.22 33.12
25-29 354 23.18 7.14 22.08 13.46 15.18 34.84
30-34 330 21.53 6.72 20.7 12.07 13.46 33.81
35-39 212 20.7 6.55 19.66 11.39 13.46 32.77
40-44 148 20.7 6.87 20.7 11.04 13.11 32.43
45-49 154 18.91 5.66 18.28 11.39 12.42 29.32
50-54 164 18.87 6.49 17.94 10.01 12.07 32.43
55-59 155 19.14 6.04 18.97 11.04 11.73 30.01

Measurements converted to ng/dl
Age Number of Subjects Mean Standard Deviation Median 5th Percentile 10th Percentile 95th Percentile
< 25 125 692 158 697 408 468 956
25-29 354 669 206 637 388 438 1005
30-34 330 621 194 597 348 388 975
35-39 212 597 189 567 329 388 945
40-44 148 597 198 597 319 378 936
45-49 154 546 163 527 329 358 846
50-54 164 544 187 518 289 348 936
55-59 155 552 174 547 319 338 866
1 - Source for charts: http://www.weymouthclinic.co.uk/wellman/paper2.html
2 - Vermeulen A. Declining androgens with age - an overview, In: Androgens and the ageing male. Eds. Oddens B. Vermeulen A. Parthenon Publishing. New York. 1996
3 - Simon D. Nahoul K. Chades MA. Sex hormones, ageing, ethnicity and insulin sensitivity in men : an overview of the Telecom study. In: Androgens and the ageing male. Eds. Oddens B. Vermeulen A. Parthenon Publishing. New York. 1996

**zaggahamma** · 10-07-2010, 03:40 PM

move to pct section?

**flatscat** · 10-07-2010, 03:53 PM

didnt catch that - but you can still pay me later - great ref chart

**zaggahamma** · 10-07-2010, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by flatscat

didnt catch that - but you can still pay me later - great ref chart

you know after one paragraph and i'm off to nap

**flatscat** · 10-08-2010, 06:52 AM

u and ur a.d.d.

**powerws** · 10-08-2010, 08:09 PM

Originally Posted by CMB

What was your cycle and dosages for it? What were your doses for pct? How old are you? And no its not true. I recover differently depending on the compounds. I recovered better than ever on my last cycle.

Well my cycle was 8 weeks deca only which I know now is stupid and bullsh**! My pct started 3 weeks after last pin and consisted of tamox at 20/20/20/20/20 and torem at 120/100/60/60/30. In three weeks I will have been off pct for 5 weeks. Getting blood test then.

**powerws** · 10-08-2010, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by flatscat

you can pay me later

Appendix
Average Total and Free Testosterone Levels in Men by Age Group

Two studies of Sex Hormone Levels in men, by age group (1)
Mean Plasma Sex Hormone Level in healthy men (2)
Measurements in European Units (nmol/L)
Age Number of Subjects Total Testosterone Standard Deviation Free Testosterone Standard Deviation SHBG Standard Deviation
25-34 45 21.38 5.9 0.428 0.098 35.5 8.8
35-44 22 23.14 7.36 0.356 0.043 40.1 7.9
45-54 23 21.02 7.37 0.314 0.075 44.6 8.2
55-64 43 19.49 6.75 0.288 0.073 45.5 8.8
65-74 47 18.15 6.83 0.239 0.078 48.7 14.2
75-84 48 16.32 5.85 0.207 0.081 51 22.7
85-100 21 13.05 4.63 0.186 0.08 65.9 22.8

Testosterone measurements converted to ng/dl
Age Number of Subjects Total Testosterone Standard Deviation Free Testosterone Standard Deviation SHBG (nmol/L.) Standard Deviation
25-34 45 617 170 12.3 2.8 35.5 8.8
35-44 22 668 212 10.3 1.2 40.1 7.9
45-54 23 606 213 9.1 2.2 44.6 8.2
55-64 43 562 195 8.3 2.1 45.5 8.8
65-74 47 524 197 6.9 2.3 48.7 14.2
75-84 48 471 169 6 2.3 51 22.7
85-100 21 376 134 5.4 2.3 65.9 22.8

Plasma Total Testosterone in healthy non-diabetic men (3)
Measurements in European Units (nmol/L)
Age Number of Subjects Mean Standard Deviation Median 5th Percentile 10th Percentile 95th Percentile
< 25 125 23.97 5.48 24.15 14.15 16.22 33.12
25-29 354 23.18 7.14 22.08 13.46 15.18 34.84
30-34 330 21.53 6.72 20.7 12.07 13.46 33.81
35-39 212 20.7 6.55 19.66 11.39 13.46 32.77
40-44 148 20.7 6.87 20.7 11.04 13.11 32.43
45-49 154 18.91 5.66 18.28 11.39 12.42 29.32
50-54 164 18.87 6.49 17.94 10.01 12.07 32.43
55-59 155 19.14 6.04 18.97 11.04 11.73 30.01

Measurements converted to ng/dl
Age Number of Subjects Mean Standard Deviation Median 5th Percentile 10th Percentile 95th Percentile
< 25 125 692 158 697 408 468 956
25-29 354 669 206 637 388 438 1005
30-34 330 621 194 597 348 388 975
35-39 212 597 189 567 329 388 945
40-44 148 597 198 597 319 378 936
45-49 154 546 163 527 329 358 846
50-54 164 544 187 518 289 348 936
55-59 155 552 174 547 319 338 866
1 - Source for charts: http://www.weymouthclinic.co.uk/wellman/paper2.html
2 - Vermeulen A. Declining androgens with age - an overview, In: Androgens and the ageing male. Eds. Oddens B. Vermeulen A. Parthenon Publishing. New York. 1996
3 - Simon D. Nahoul K. Chades MA. Sex hormones, ageing, ethnicity and insulin sensitivity in men : an overview of the Telecom study. In: Androgens and the ageing male. Eds. Oddens B. Vermeulen A. Parthenon Publishing. New York. 1996

This is what I'm looking for but really don't know how to read the chart. I'm 41 and looking for normal levels of natural test, free test.