Life Extenders: Anyone know anything or tried Reneuve?

[Times Roman]

It is a non prescription enzyme that is designed to regrow the telomerase in a cell. By the way, as a cell divides, it's telomerase shorten each time. Until it finally gets so short, the cell dies. This is thought to be the leading cause of aging.

I'm thinking of ordering, but wanted to check with my mates first to see if they know anything, or have experienced this product for themselves?

I've been taking resveratrol for a few years, and it is supposed to inhibit the telomerase shortening process, and in theory, extend life.

[JohnnyVegas]

I spend more time at science news sites then I like to admit, and I haven't read about anything ever that is commercially available that extends life. It is massively studied, and often written about, but always ends with something like "researchers believe this will lead to treatments..." If something WAS found, it would be massive news, and not sitting in a supplement bottle few people know about. Having said that, I am going to go read about it.

In other news, there is new research that HGH in adults may raise instances of diabetes and cancer, and that SUPRESSING it may reduce your chances of dying from these diseases. That is the exact opposite of what most of us in the Life Extention group believe. We think it better to INCREASE the amount of HGH to counteract the body's natural process of decreasing production.

Sometimes I get frustrated that we are all just guessing.

[Times Roman]

You are one of the few elderly statesmen here, and I am impressed you are a life extender (like me).

Resveratrol holds promise... only way to tell is to actually take it and measure the statistical significance compared to others. we know it works in worms and mice. will it work in humans? not sure, but for the low cost, i'm willing to roll the dice.

a caloricly restricted diet by about 30% is known to significantly increase life span in mammals, and good imperical evidence suggests it will do the same in humans. resveratrol is supposed to mimic this process in humans without the need to starve... the caveat is that it will not help you lose weight! Just theoritically extend life in humans.

I purchased a kilo of 40% pure resveratrol powder several years ago, and the small dose involved, I still have over a quarter lb... some of us went in on it... I never took full possession of the kilo, only my piece of it

[JohnnyVegas]

I am interested in life extention to the point that I think significant things are coming, but I haven't done anything yet. I would consider the low calorie diet since that is research I believe, but it gets in the way of my current vanity-based goals. Heh. I think there will be major breakthroughs in the next ten years.

I am probably way behind you, as this is a new interest for me. At 42, my mortality has just become an issue.

EDIT: now that I have looked it up, I realize resveratrol is something I have read a lot about, but I didn't remember the name because it was in my mental "they are still working on that" file. I remember reading late last year at Science Daily (love that site) that they gave it to primates for the first time and it boosted energy and cut fat. They are working on obesity medications with that specific research. Good stuff.

[flatscat]

I heard the raw material is produced in Kabul.

JK, never heard of it before. My idea of life extension in Michelob Ultra. JK again. I am interested in this area and will look at it as well. Got any links TR? Hope things are going well over there and hope you get a new cook.

Flats

[Times Roman]

I heard the raw material is produced in Kabul.

JK, never heard of it before. My idea of life extension in Michelob Ultra. JK again. I am interested in this area and will look at it as well. Got any links TR? Hope things are going well over there and hope you get a new cook.

Flats

life extenders and Bodybuilders follow a similar path, minus the excessive aas.

there is many things young people can be doing right now... resveratrol for one. Clean diet, cardio, and resistance training for another.

Here is a manual you can read, cover to cover... shouldn't take you more than 30 minutes. There are things you can take to protect the brain (deprenyl), things to protect your body, and just interesting information in general.... this should peak your curiosity to get you started. The basic philosophy of a life extender (me) is that one should be able to live to 100 and be relatively healthy at the same time.

http://www.futurescience.com/leintro.html

[Times Roman]

I am interested in life extention to the point that I think significant things are coming, but I haven't done anything yet. I would consider the low calorie diet since that is research I believe, but it gets in the way of my current vanity-based goals. Heh. I think there will be major breakthroughs in the next ten years.

I am probably way behind you, as this is a new interest for me. At 42, my mortality has just become an issue.

EDIT: now that I have looked it up, I realize resveratrol is something I have read a lot about, but I didn't remember the name because it was in my mental "they are still working on that" file. I remember reading late last year at Science Daily (love that site) that they gave it to primates for the first time and it boosted energy and cut fat. They are working on obesity medications with that specific research. Good stuff.

I;m 49, and been mostly serious about this for 5 years now.... at 42, it's time to start thinking about it. Obviously, excessive amounts of aas flys in the face of life extenders, so I only take "replacement" amounts. Just ordered a 6 month supply of IGF-1spray. Cardio is very important, as well as managing your BP and cholestoral levels... right now, at your age, you should be seeing some elevation in your BPand cholestoral... doing anything about it?

the good news is you are in shape already, so all you need to do is read up on the various supplements (yes, resveratrol), tweek your diet a bit, keep the booze in check, and viola! yer on your way

[Times Roman]

I am interested in life extention to the point that I think significant things are coming, but I haven't done anything yet. I would consider the low calorie diet since that is research I believe, but it gets in the way of my current vanity-based goals. Heh. I think there will be major breakthroughs in the next ten years.

I am probably way behind you, as this is a new interest for me. At 42, my mortality has just become an issue.

EDIT: now that I have looked it up, I realize resveratrol is something I have read a lot about, but I didn't remember the name because it was in my mental "they are still working on that" file. I remember reading late last year at Science Daily (love that site) that they gave it to primates for the first time and it boosted energy and cut fat. They are working on obesity medications with that specific research. Good stuff.

don't wait! if it takes them 20 years to gather the necessary data to validate it works in humans, you will be 62 and still sitting on the fence! Better to roll the dice now and be ready... Btw.. the emperical evidence strongly suggests it will have a significant impact on humans.... we already know it works in mammals with short life spans (mice).... that data can be ready in one life cycle of a mouse.... but the life cycle of a human can be 70+ years.... don't be caught asleep at the wheel! all the respected medical journals are putting their money on resveratrol.

[goldenboy33]

What brand of resveratrol is legit? I am sure there are a lot of lesser quality ones out there.

[JohnnyVegas]

So far my BP and cholesterol are great. Overall health is good. It was getting on TRT that made me think I should be looking into other things as well. My interest in life extention (until the past three months) has always been scientific interest, not personal. I will get on the ball. I will admit that my scientific interest has always made me hate the guys that practically live at the healthfood store, because theirs is more of a spiritual/religious blind following based on pseudoscience-filled marketing crap. I need to learn to lose enough skepticism to believe in something, and the "it's cheap enough, why not take the gamble" method may work.

[goldenboy33]

Good brand of resveratrol?

[Times Roman]

a publication you can subscribe to for free is Live Extension Magazine.... many great articles to read... you can also look it up online. Aas raises blood pressure in older people in many cases... something to keep an eye on.

[Times Roman]

Good brand of resveratrol?

if you PM me to remind me, I'll look it up tonight for you.... i'm dashing in and out of my room to grab a couple of things.

i wrote somewhere I purchased a kilo of 40% pure resveratrol powder a few years ago costing a few hundred dollars split between several of my mates....

personally, i'd recommend this method, since it is an infinately better value than buying a cap or a tab with a few millagrams at a highly inflated price.

if you do not have a few hundred dollars to spare, and instead want to purchase bottles of caps or tabs costing dozens of dollars a bottle, i can check for you...


my daily cost of resveratrol is pennies a day. yours if you buy bottles of caps will be something like 30 cents a day.... i'll find out for you

[Times Roman]

pure bulk is a legit source... you should be G2G (i have bought from them before, but if you shop around, you can find a better value)

http://purebulk.com/resveratrol-99

[Times Roman]

say the standard dose = 50mg so 20 doses per gram... if you buy 100 gms for $130, you would get 2000 doses for about .05 a day.... and this is a little on the high side if you only buy 100gms from purebulk who is known to be expensive.... result? $1.50/mo

(50mg/day is also a little on the high side, i'm just using to keep my mental calcs simple)

you can find caps of resveratrol for 60 @ $25, or $12/mo

the caps are 10x more expensive

[Times Roman]

if you buy bulk resveratrol in powder, keep a little bit out in a tiny pill container, that in the fridge, and the rest triple zip bag sealed and in the freezer.

the powder is very very fine, and it gets all over the place, so be very careful when you open the package!

[SlimmerMe]

and if you were to get the capsules any suggestions? as to one more pure than the other?

[Times Roman]

and if you were to get the capsules any suggestions? as to one more pure than the other?

resveratrol comes in a variety of purities. for example, when I purchased the guy was advertising 1kg of 40% purity = $400. But then I received a call from teh guy saying he screwed up and the ad should have read 20% purity = $400. Could he either send me the 20% or could he ask me for more money? I told him he offered me the 40% = $400, I accepted by sending him my money, which he promptly cashed, now he needs to make good on his offer.

The answer is that you need to check each label to determine the purity. I take about 40mg of 40% purity daily. An equivalent of 20% would be 80gms.

The label is more important than the distributor, such as Lucky Vitamin, who does not make it, simply resell it.

PM me if you need more info

[scientist]

I'm interested as to where any of you got any of this information you're touting so highly. Almost all those studies you cite on it's life extending qualities in mice were discredited as having faulty control groups, or just wildly misinterpreted by you guys upon reading them. It MAY have SOME LIMITED cancer treating ability when applied DIRECTLY to melanomas, but that's about it. Do your homework...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resveratrol#Life_extension

[JohnnyVegas]

Thanks for the update. The last line that you were referring to was one report in 2011 that said there were problems with control groups. All the posts in this thread were from February of 2011, quite possibly before the study you are referring to was published or widely known.

Why use your first post to be a dick on an eight month old thread?

I am not writing that because I am offended or defensive. My posts were very neutral; I am not a fan of this substance, just an observer. My response is entirely based on your condescending "do your homework" comment. Good luck making friends.

[zaggahamma]

Thanks for the update. The last line that you were referring to was one report in 2011 said there were problems with control groups. All the posts in this thread were from February of 2011, quite possibly before the study you are referring to was published or widely known.

Why use your first post to be a dick on an eight month old thread?

I am not writing that because I am offended or defensive. My posts were very neutral; I am not a fan of this substance, just an observer. My response is entirely based on your condescending "do your homework" comment. Good luck making friends.

endorsed

was thinking same thing

[JD250]

^^ X2 almost said something, but held my tongue till I was in a better frame of mind......well said JV

[ecsaaron]

not going to pile on but dam

[bigalby2000]

Hi Guys

I started taking resveratrol about 5 years ago, as it wasnt really available in Australia i ordered it from the US although these days its cheaply purchased locally.(i take between 200 and 400 mg of transres per day)

I cant say that i have noticed any change in energy levels but at 48 my blood pressure and cholesterol are still good and though most of my friends around my age have gone considerably grey in the last few years my hair is still holding its natural colour with little sign of changing so far.

I have been looking at reneuve for about a year but haven't purchased it but i think i might give it a try has anyone else tried it yet??

Al

[lovbyts]

All I can say is the stuff taste nasty/bitter if you buy it in bulk. Capsules would be much better.

[kelkel]

Interesting concept. Keep it updated please.

[lovbyts]

It's been said for a long time that a glass of wine a day is good for you. It's the resveratrol in the wine that is supposed to be the key ingredient.

[mstupak]

Hi there I have tried it and am taking it right now. I have had nothing but positive results from it. you can actually feel it going to work right away as soon as you put a few drops under the toung it's a great product. I liked it so much in fact that decided to become a distributer myself, contact me and i will give you an additional 10% discount

[Times Roman]

Hi there I have tried it and am taking it right now. I have had nothing but positive results from it. you can actually feel it going to work right away as soon as you put a few drops under the toung it's a great product. I liked it so much in fact that decided to become a distributer myself, contact me and i will give you an additional 10% discount

Mate,
I understand your enthusiasm, but will disagree with your pitch. This product works on a cellular level, and takes time to work. You cannot feel it going to work right away.
Please edit your post, as you are spamming your products on this board, which is a rule violation.
---Roman

[bigalby2000]

Well Guys i finally bit the bullet and ordered a bottle of reneuve, i havent taken it yet i will do it in the morning. hopefully it is as good a sits website claims but either way i'll keep you posted

Al

[Times Roman]

Well Guys i finally bit the bullet and ordered a bottle of reneuve, i havent taken it yet i will do it in the morning. hopefully it is as good a sits website claims but either way i'll keep you posted

Al

there's been alot of contraversy on this issue. I would think there is nothing to feel, except maybe a longer life