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    Doctor said no HCG, alternatives?

    So I am blasting through my recently prescribed TRT. I am just 6 weeks into my therapy and as expected, my testicles are shinking. My doctor wont give me any HCG because he is not comfortable with it. Gave me a referral to see an endo 2 months from now! Is there something I can take while I am waiting?

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    Nope, but you can buy hCG for "experimental purposes" that will do the trick and for usually less $ then a compounding pharma.

    But I don't get it; this quack puts you on a TRT protocol without considering that you are in HPTA shutdown and refuses to give you hCG just because he's not "comfortable!" Then why the hell did he put you on T in the first place not knowing what it will do to your body!!!

    If it were me, I'd threaten to sue him for malpractice and I am not kidding. Worse yet you have wait 2 freaking months to see an Endo who may or may not give it to you!!! Call the Endo and beg and plead to see him right away and them why!!! Tell them that you started a Test protocol 6 weeks ago, are in HPTA shutdown, and now your testes are hurting really bad 24/7 and getting smaller by the day. Make sure to tell them your Doc will not prescribe the much needed hCG. Tell them you are really hurting and can't wait a week let alone 2 months and this may help if done with convincing passion:-)

    Also, go on Google Earth and search on "Compounding Pharmacies" in your area. Once you've identified them call them and call them and ask if they know of any MD's who they can recommend for TRT management. This may/will get you into the right hands as well

    Damn, posts like this just really piss me off...you deserve better treatment man!


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    You said you are blasting through your TRT. Does that mean you are taking more than prescribed? If so, does your doc know? If not, then you are doing as much of a disservice to your TRT program as he is. But, I do agree that you should be on HCG as part of your protocol. What happens if you contact another Endo rather than the one you were referred too?

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    He does not know I am blasting. But whether I am following TRT protocol of 200 a week, or giving my self 300 a week, I would be in the same situation. I didn't see HCG in the research chem area? My testies are hurting by the way. If I push my doctor, he may just stop my treatment all together until I see the endo. Either way, I have the same problem. Do my testies have 2 months left???

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    With all due respect to the gdevine, Do not ever threaten to sue a doctor unless you are fond of treating your own illnesses. By the way I agree that the doc is fvcd I just don't feel that a threat would be at all productive. Just go ahead and get your own HCG and pin 250ius twice a week. Also agree with JohnnyVegas if you are taking you T at a rate greater than prescribed you are sabotageing your treatment as the doc needs to find out your bodies response to a specific dose then adjust from there. After he has completed the adjustments if and got you on a steady dosage then if you want to save your partial bottles and do a month long blast every now and then its not so bad.

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    Ok. I have not been find to find HCG . Anyone have some information they can share?

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    I totally understand and agree that you are in a pickle regardless of your dosage. I would either contact another local Endo, or possibly an Anti-Aging clinic. They will accept the blood work that you did recently. Tell them you are good to go on Test, but need HCG . They will try to sell you b12 shots and a million other things...hold firm and ask just for the HCG.

    Another thought. They always sell me 10,000 unit bottles, but I do 800 units a week so the bottle will last longer than you are supposed to use it. Maybe ask them if they sell a 5000 unit bottle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Far from massive View Post
    With all due respect to the gdevine, Do not ever threaten to sue a doctor unless you are fond of treating your own illnesses. By the way I agree that the doc is fvcd I just don't feel that a threat would be at all productive. Just go ahead and get your own HCG and pin 250ius twice a week. Also agree with JohnnyVegas if you are taking you T at a rate greater than prescribed you are sabotageing your treatment as the doc needs to find out your bodies response to a specific dose then adjust from there. After he has completed the adjustments if and got you on a steady dosage then if you want to save your partial bottles and do a month long blast every now and then its not so bad.
    I share the same passion gdevine has towards these fn quacks...who's to say the op couldnt sue and then find treatment with a suitable doctor...just sayin

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    It could be the that doc wanted to help, but is now in over his head and would prefer OP gets advice from a more knowledgeable person rather than prescribing another drug for off-lable use. My understanding is that HCG isn't really meant for the purpose we use it for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Far from massive View Post
    With all due respect to the gdevine, Do not ever threaten to sue a doctor unless you are fond of treating your own illnesses. By the way I agree that the doc is fvcd I just don't feel that a threat would be at all productive. Just go ahead and get your own HCG and pin 250ius twice a week. Also agree with JohnnyVegas if you are taking you T at a rate greater than prescribed you are sabotageing your treatment as the doc needs to find out your bodies response to a specific dose then adjust from there. After he has completed the adjustments if and got you on a steady dosage then if you want to save your partial bottles and do a month long blast every now and then its not so bad.
    The Quack put this man on a medical treatment but didn't follow it completely through (weather he's blasting or not) because he's "not comfortable" with a needed prescription and as a result the OP is now experiencing testicle atrophy. What happens if the OP happens to be a young guy who wants kids later in life only to find out due to the sever damage done to his testicles the chances are slim to none becasue this Quack wasn't "comfortable"?

    He's suffering and could experience sever organ damage as a result and you say don't threaten or make a statement to sue?

    That's OK, I respect your opinion FFM, as I do all the men here, but honest to God; is my scenario that far out not to warrant that kind of statement at least?

    Men shouldn't have to suffer because of incompetence or lack of knowledge.

    Geeeeezzzz....
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    Quote Originally Posted by vtach12 View Post
    Ok. I have not been find to find HCG. Anyone have some information they can share?
    Hey vtach, just Google: hcg experimental use only

    Things will come up.

    Good luck bro...seriously:-)

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    well my Endo never has precribed me HCG ,and im on lifetime TRT,i started 4 years ago,and he has never mentioned me using HCG,my sack and nuts have shrank,but i cant have anymore children anyway,i got a vasectomy back in 1998,why wouldnt an endo not prescribe HCG?Im considering getting a 2nd opinion from another Endo or something

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    Clomi anyone? Clomi is available for research purposes from a site sponsor. Sorry about your situation. Should not take two months to get in for a consultation. If you have been seeing a GP, I'd say their specific knowledge about TRT is pretty spotty (in general). I was able to find HCG with an internet search a while back as well. Just wasn't sure if the seller was trustworthy.

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    just do a search for research peptides.

    and clomi has way more sides than hcg , and is more complicated to dose, and prolly shouldn't be taken indefinitely, imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine View Post
    just Google: hcg experimental use only
    Wow! Thanks for this. I thought HCG was not available via experimental use. First site I saw was half of what I am paying for my prescription at a compounding pharmacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GotNoBlueMilk View Post
    Wow! Thanks for this. I thought HCG was not available via experimental use. First site I saw was half of what I am paying for my prescription at a compounding pharmacy.
    Your welcome my friend...that's why we're all here...to help right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GotNoBlueMilk View Post
    Wow! Thanks for this. I thought HCG was not available via experimental use. First site I saw was half of what I am paying for my prescription at a compounding pharmacy.
    GNBM, can you please PM me what you found? thanks!

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    GNBM, can you PM me also? Found kits, but no chems. Thank you, Jeff

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    Sorry, false alarm. I should have taken time to read the hit more carefully. It was the mixing kit only (needles, water, etc.) and not HCG . Bit bummed myself because I thought I was going to save some decent cash.
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