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[SlimmerMe]

^^^^ now that is SO SO true!!!

Finding a good one takes a lot of searching and calling since most of them are not up to date. And then again others are over the top. So finding one "jussssssst right" is a HUNT~

[bigbossofdariver]

^^^^ now that is SO SO true!!!

Finding a good one takes a lot of searching and calling since most of them are not up to date. And then again others are over the top. So finding one "jussssssst right" is a HUNT~

yeah i need to find a good one and build up a good relationship with him/her so later down the line when i do start taking steroids i will have a doc that can actually help.lol i may be asking for too much. judging by my test though i would say im a very good canidate for steroid use , liver function, BP,WBC, everything was right on the money and thats at 28 percent body fat.

[flatscat]

get labs done, lose the bf, get labs done again, maybe use an AI to lower E2 after you have started dropping the pounds. (this of course if your labs are normal except for the E2, even if your free t is a little low, dropping the BF with weight loss and/or use of an AI will push that number up). Just a thought. Would hate to see you jump on hrt if you dont need to.

[SlimmerMe]

yeah i need to find a good one and build up a good relationship with him/her so later down the line when i do start taking steroids i will have a doc that can actually help.lol i may be asking for too much. judging by my test though i would say im a very good canidate for steroid use, liver function, BP,WBC, everything was right on the money and thats at 28 percent body fat.

steroids and 28% BF do not go well together.....at all. Please come on over to the Diet forum.

[zaggahamma]

get labs done, lose the bf, get labs done again, maybe use an AI to lower E2 after you have started dropping the pounds. (this of course if your labs are normal except for the E2, even if your free t is a little low, dropping the BF with weight loss and/or use of an AI will push that number up). Just a thought. Would hate to see you jump on hrt if you dont need to.

flats what was your bf% when you started trt....u know my memory sucks...cant remember if you lost all that weight before or during or a little bit of both

[flatscat]

I was prolly around 28-30. And I jumped on trt BEFORE starting to lose the weight - and had a hell of a time getting things dialed in right - took about 6-7 months before I figured things out enough (err, realizing that the high BF and the huge gut was the root of most of my problems and how important lowering E2 was) to start losing the bf. I wish I had taken my advise above before starting the t. Now I am not saying that trt did not help - I am sure it did. But if I knew then what I know I would have done it differently - or at least tried.

[zaggahamma]

I was prolly around 28-30. And I jumped on trt BEFORE starting to lose the weight - and had a hell of a time getting things dialed in right - took about 6-7 months before I figured things out enough (err, realizing that the high BF and the huge gut was the root of most of my problems and how important lowering E2 was) to start losing the bf. I wish I had taken my advise above before starting the t. Now I am not saying that trt did not help - I am sure it did. But if I knew then what I know I would have done it differently - or at least tried.

well said...i too was 20% plus before trt and was so for some time and it was indeed the T that seemed to be the only thing missing for me as i did nothing different after trt and was able to drop bf again...again meaning that i was probably closer to 30% and had lost 30lbs before trt

[bigbossofdariver]

steroids and 28% BF do not go well together.....at all. Please come on over to the Diet forum.

i was actually talking about later down the line, like a few years. didnt exactly mean now.