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    Quote Originally Posted by injured1 View Post
    Thanks for reply. Yes that's correct, 200mg every other week( they started me 1x per month!...until I went to a uro ). The thing is, the new doc is willing to work with me and possibly HCG. The other doc will only go every other week...and pulled teeth for 200mg and no hcg. However, my blood results show the ping ponging of my serum levels. That being said, the new doc would just be a practioner, so no experience. So if I come out and say for example 150 per week, I don't think he'd want to change it. If I came out with 200mg a week, same thing. So, idk what to start off with. 200mg every other, health wise, didn't notice a whole bunch. Gym, like I said my gradual gains cae a little quicker.... That being said, I see people on here doing 200 per week. An endo told me 200mg a week long term is bad for organs. So idk. I don't have any major bad sides with 200 EOW, so I know I can tolerate 200 in a shot. However, is 200 a week too much for as health? Also, what would be a good range for me, considering the above factors? Finally, you guys see results in the gym? Funny thing is before T I never felt the effects much in the gym..AKA before test, didn't realize I was low far as the gym.
    You are going to have to try it out and get blood work. Would flat out keep same dose and do like I suggested 100mg each week or 50 mg twice a week. then adjust after 5 weeks when you get blood work if necessary, as you might even want to do less than that.

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    i do 100 mg in the mucsle every 5 days, seems to work the best for me

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    Thanks for the replies...I understand the blood work thing, but this is a practioner.....I have had trouble with endos and some docs...example 200mg per month. So, the practioner is not going to be as tight as the others, but would consider hcg and 1x per week...which should of been the right way I think to begin with. That being said:

    Would 150mg be safe per week and help with mass at same time?
    I see ppl that claimed 200mg and over....is that too much on organs as it is per week? Since I did 200mg every other week( EOW ), the half life after a week would have been 100mg....I had tests during that half time- which some came low.

    Thanks! Basically, I look at health, but also an aid in mass. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by injured1 View Post
    Thanks for the replies...I understand the blood work thing, but this is a practioner.....I have had trouble with endos and some docs...example 200mg per month. So, the practioner is not going to be as tight as the others, but would consider hcg and 1x per week...which should of been the right way I think to begin with. That being said:

    Would 150mg be safe per week and help with mass at same time?
    I see ppl that claimed 200mg and over....is that too much on organs as it is per week? Since I did 200mg every other week( EOW ), the half life after a week would have been 100mg....I had tests during that half time- which some came low.

    Thanks! Basically, I look at health, but also an aid in mass. Thanks
    150mg would be fine 200mg would be better.I ve been on 200mg a week of test cyp for over a year now.My doctor is a trt doctor and ive been fortunate to have him.Arimidex or similar is a must to control aromatization and keep estrogen in check.Dosage will depend on bloodwork,estrogen levels etc...hcg is a must at the very least once a week.Yes you will see gains in the gym.Ive done bloodwork 4X during the year to adjust dosage and check psa.Everything has been great so far.As long as youre getting bloodwork regularly you should be fine.My test was 1040 and my estradiol was 25 two weeks go.PERFECT!!! And they were 1026 and 25 six months ago.I never miss a visit and I never miss a pill.Hope your journey is as successful as mine if not more.Good luck my friend.

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    Man I hope this guy doesn't get all confused here. Seems so many different answers for him. Well I'll put in mine as well. Weekly shots over biweekly will do you much better at keeping your test levels more stable. IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by havanakid View Post
    150mg would be fine 200mg would be better.I ve been on 200mg a week of test cyp for over a year now.My doctor is a trt doctor and ive been fortunate to have him.Arimidex or similar is a must to control aromatization and keep estrogen in check.Dosage will depend on bloodwork,estrogen levels etc...hcg is a must at the very least once a week.Yes you will see gains in the gym.Ive done bloodwork 4X during the year to adjust dosage and check psa.Everything has been great so far.As long as youre getting bloodwork regularly you should be fine.My test was 1040 and my estradiol was 25 two weeks go.PERFECT!!! And they were 1026 and 25 six months ago.I never miss a visit and I never miss a pill.Hope your journey is as successful as mine if not more.Good luck my friend.
    Well it seems like your doing well. Thanks for the reply. Now I heared an endo tell me 200mg will do long term damage to organs...also the same guy believed 300 was normal for a person in their 20s.

    I was thinking the same between 150 and 200mg per week...considering I get 200mg every other week, I think I could handle a shot at 200mg. Also the half life( after one week ) currently would be 100mg...I know I need more than that because of tests and how I should feel, especially on test! Now with that said, 150mg a week would see gains in gym...I know your on 200mg per week. Yes, I also hope my journey is good

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shol'va View Post
    Man I hope this guy doesn't get all confused here. Seems so many different answers for him. Well I'll put in mine as well. Weekly shots over biweekly will do you much better at keeping your test levels more stable. IMO
    Thanks for the reply. Yeah, not to confused here lol. However, I figured once a week would work better. I just gotta get my shet straight before I talk to the doc that is willing to work with me, cause once I say something and back it up .....they, I am guessing won't want to change it much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by injured1 View Post
    Well it seems like your doing well. Thanks for the reply. Now I heared an endo tell me 200mg will do long term damage to organs...also the same guy believed 300 was normal for a person in their 20s.

    I was thinking the same between 150 and 200mg per week...considering I get 200mg every other week, I think I could handle a shot at 200mg. Also the half life( after one week ) currently would be 100mg...I know I need more than that because of tests and how I should feel, especially on test! Now with that said, 150mg a week would see gains in gym...I know your on 200mg per week. Yes, I also hope my journey is good
    With proper diet and training in about two to three months you should see a difference in gains.You gotta give it time for your levels to start climbing.ONce you get to 700-800+ you should really start seeing results.Try and get blood work 3 months after your first pin and see where youre at.

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    Oh yeah and 300 for a person in their 20's thats crazy low..crazy like the doctor that told you it was normal.I was at 477 at 37 no trt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by havanakid View Post
    Oh yeah and 300 for a person in their 20's thats crazy low..crazy like the doctor that told you it was normal.I was at 477 at 37 no trt.
    Yeah most of the specialist say that about 300...on the 300-1010 chart. However, this practioner....said they'd be probably okay with it and I prob researched more than they did. So it seems it may be very workable, my insurance is getting on board as well. Hard as fck to tell ppl about once a week and get them on board. I started once a month! Then that doc sent me to a uro and he did 200mg every other week...been like that for a year. So, I see all these ppl saying how they feel great, and seeing good gains( well some ) doesn't hurt. Then there's me lol. I know I am not the only one, but... An endo told me 300 was fine. This doc though even said 1 time per week sounded more reasonable and that every other was meant for older individuals, elderly. So I might have found the doc....just gotta make sure my shet is in gear so when I really talk about it and maybe get things going better. I have bounced around...131 started off.....700s back to 200s up to 1010, then back to 300s. So gains in gym doesn't hurt either...but also more regular serum levels to. Thanks for response.

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    My lowest was 232 at the age of 27. That time it was flagged "low" but the computers but when it was 276 i was told it was "within range" as many of us here. Luckily my GP was more than happy to give me a T prescription.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juice2012 View Post
    My lowest was 232 at the age of 27. That time it was flagged "low" but the computers but when it was 276 i was told it was "within range" as many of us here. Luckily my GP was more than happy to give me a T prescription.
    Yeah...Gotta file papers for the new doc. The doc seemed to agree..I said between 150-200mg per week. Over phone thought was reasonable. Here's my q..since I have been on every other week 200mg for over a year..what is a good dose. I know I can tolerate a 200mg shot, b/c of what I mentioned. However, is 200 to high? I know some say no. Yes I wouldn't mind muscle gains from it, but still want to be healthy a decade down the road( cholesterol- stroke, etc ). So 200 every other week, means half life after week 1 100 mg. Also, any luck on anyone getting a doc to prescribe hcg lol and an anti inhibitor?

    Also, my E2 levels were never ever checked. So I want to be prepared for the doc lol...even though this doc isn't the most educated in trt, prob most workable. Although the doc sees my reasoning for once per week and dose so far. Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by injured1 View Post
    Yeah...Gotta file papers for the new doc. The doc seemed to agree..I said between 150-200mg per week. Over phone thought was reasonable. Here's my q..since I have been on every other week 200mg for over a year..what is a good dose. I know I can tolerate a 200mg shot, b/c of what I mentioned. However, is 200 to high? I know some say no. Yes I wouldn't mind muscle gains from it, but still want to be healthy a decade down the road( cholesterol- stroke, etc ). So 200 every other week, means half life after week 1 100 mg. Also, any luck on anyone getting a doc to prescribe hcg lol and an anti inhibitor?

    Also, my E2 levels were never ever checked. So I want to be prepared for the doc lol...even though this doc isn't the most educated in trt, prob most workable. Although the doc sees my reasoning for once per week and dose so far. Thanks
    If you have been doing 200mg biweekly, start out doing 100mg weekly. After 4 weeks get your bloodwork. Not getting E2 tested prior to TRT kinda sucks, nothing you can do about that now though.

    Make sure you get E2 done with your next bloodwork. My E2 started climbing after being on 100mg /wk for 6 weeks so I got my doctor to prescribe arimidex , he was almost reluctant at first, mainly because he has no idea how TRT works and just writes prescriptions for what I ask for.

    I've been taking .25mg arimidex 24 hours after my injection twice a week. I now inject 60mg of T twice a week. Getting bloodwork again in like 3 more weeks.

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