Deca ?

[rebel70]

For those that also use deca in your TRT.How long before you noticed it helping the joints feel better? What dosage did you use? And any bothersome sides?

[bass]

i thought i used 50mgs but it was 100 mgs per week and noticed improvements within 3-4 weeks! i am on it again at 100 mgs along with 200 mgs test cyp.

[JD250]

I'm on 230 mg test every week along with 200 mg deca , I'm in week 4 of the deca and my shoulder is feeling better all the time.....sides....maybe a little oily skin.

[kelkel]

Guys, I'm on trt with A-gel but am about to start a cycle with Deca . First one in 20 years! I've read lately, even on this site, that to make good progress you need 400-600 mg deca? Thoughts anyone? Joint pain (elbow) killing me. I'm planning on doing cyp @ 200mg, Deca @ probably 300 along with A-dex as I'm very gyno sensitive. Using a FL clinic which is easy but friggen costly as all hell.

JD does your doc write the Deca along with the test?

[zaggahamma]

Guys, I'm on trt with A-gel but am about to start a cycle with Deca . First one in 20 years! I've read lately, even on this site, that to make good progress you need 400-600 mg deca? Thoughts anyone? Joint pain (elbow) killing me. I'm planning on doing cyp @ 200mg, Deca @ probably 300 along with A-dex as I'm very gyno sensitive. Using a FL clinic which is easy but friggen costly as all hell.

JD does your doc write the Deca along with the test?

my thoughts is you either read that out of context or it was stated wrong...(depends on goals)

like bass and jd stated i saw strength gains and rotator cuff pain relief on 150-200mg of deca....i love nandralone, nandralone threads, pictures of the vials....cant wait to get some again

keep us posted with how it works for you

[JD250]

I use a clinic also and you're right, it's very costly. My limited understanding of deca is this.......here's a thread that helps, Down a ways The Det Oak mentions some stuff about dosage and collogen synthesis with another link also......check it out.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...4-I-screwed-up

[kelkel]

JPKMAN, JD250 check this out. this comes right from this sites description of Deca :


"So where are we? Well, Id be comfortable recommending Deca-Durabolin for use in a bulking cycle at up to 600mgs/week for an extended duration (12-16 weeks), or up to 400mgs/week in a cutting cycle (again, for 12-16 weeks), as long as something to combat water retention is present. Whichever purpose you decide to use Deca for, you still need to include Testosterone in your cycle and have some anti-progesteronic drugs on hand (see paragraph above), just in case."

That's where my confusion comes from. Then again, I'm easily confused!



Read more: http://www.steroid.com/Deca-Durabolin.php#ixzz1O2QAUczW

[zaggahamma]

JPKMAN, JD250 check this out. this comes right from this sites description of Deca :


"So where are we? Well, Id be comfortable recommending Deca-Durabolin for use in a bulking cycle at up to 600mgs/week for an extended duration (12-16 weeks), or up to 400mgs/week in a cutting cycle (again, for 12-16 weeks), as long as something to combat water retention is present. Whichever purpose you decide to use Deca for, you still need to include Testosterone in your cycle and have some anti-progesteronic drugs on hand (see paragraph above), just in case."

That's where my confusion comes from. Then again, I'm easily confused!



Read more: http://www.steroid.com/Deca-Durabolin.php#ixzz1O2QAUczW

bro...if youre looking to put on serious pounds then yes you need more dose/stronger compounds...what are your goals

[kelkel]

Like to put on about 10lbs or so. I'm seriously in great shape, abs, vascular, even some cross striations in thighs. I'm naturally a leaner person so when I put on weight it's usually quality. I don't really carry much fat. 6', around 218. Just figuring that since I'm now on trt for life I might as well exploit it a little between doc visits. Just need time to clean out, etc. prior to next visit. Also really concerned about gyno. Have liquid letro on hand from our sponsor, which came in in 3 days last week, nice, but probably going to order up adex. just hear so many different rants about dosage, etc, so I'm really not sure at all about it. I'm old school and back in my day, Nolva was it. any advice on dosage would be appreciated. Main goal, avoid gyno.....

[double chicken]

Do you have to do any type of PCT after the Deca or does PCT go away once on TRT?

[kelkel]

The way I understand it is that it's basically not needed as I'll still be on the trt so I don't have to worry bout starting up my own system again. Deca doesn't aromatize much compared to test. Possible 20% as compared to around 40% or so I read. My concern is that I'm gonna add 200 mg cyp also as I feel the androgel is getting me back to what my norm should be so I want to up that plus the deca as it's safe and helps joints, etc. Prob gonna do adex just not sure of the proper amount. Then to add more confusion to it, I read that when you come off of adex you should do nolva for a couple weeks to avoid a rebound effect from E suppression with the adex. Heads spinning. Help is appreciated.

[zaggahamma]

Like to put on about 10lbs or so. I'm seriously in great shape, abs, vascular, even some cross striations in thighs. I'm naturally a leaner person so when I put on weight it's usually quality. I don't really carry much fat. 6', around 218. Just figuring that since I'm now on trt for life I might as well exploit it a little between doc visits. Just need time to clean out, etc. prior to next visit. Also really concerned about gyno. Have liquid letro on hand from our sponsor, which came in in 3 days last week, nice, but probably going to order up adex. just hear so many different rants about dosage, etc, so I'm really not sure at all about it. I'm old school and back in my day, Nolva was it. any advice on dosage would be appreciated. Main goal, avoid gyno.....

lean bulk diet and 200-300 deca along with similar test 10lbs in 8-10 weeks pics please make sure your back on your trt dose a month before bloods

[bass]

the rule of thumb for adex is 1 mg per 100 mgs of test! of course is best to split the adex into 1/2 mg doses. the AI was discussed in another topic and the conclusion was is best to know how to read the symptoms and keep adjusting until you find the right formula, and even after that once your fat % and body weight changes you will need to adjust as you go!

[kelkel]

Thanks guys. I have a pic from a week ago on my bberry. I try to post as soon as I figure that crap out! Gimme a few....

[kelkel]

See if these come through?

[kelkel]

Leg shot. Still trying to figure this picture thing out here. Bear with me....
Tough taking a leg shot by yourself...Calf shot came out decent...

[bass]

so far so good! make sure you take the same shots after so that way we can compare it better!

[zaggahamma]

you werent exagerating....lean and vascular...you been carrying a lot of muscle around(20 years) without a cycling if thats what you meant by the 20 years or was that 20 years without a deca cycle..lol

[kelkel]

Pics don't do it justice, but I'm biased. More vascular in person, quads, etc. I'll try to figure out a way to get a quad pic in a house mirror. No, last cycle of anything was in 1989, my last contest. I'm 53 now. My workouts and lifestyle have always been bodybuilding, now I'm just a smaller version of what I used to be. Though I did make my daughters 23yr old boyfriend throw up from a leg workout a couple weeks ago. Figured you guys would appreciate that. I'll try to find some old pic's when I was much bigger.

[rebel70]

good info fellas.I'm hoping it makes the joints feel better soon.Only a week in at 200mg.Working on concrete floors kills the joints.

[bass]

Pics don't do it justice, but I'm biased. More vascular in person, quads, etc. I'll try to figure out a way to get a quad pic in a house mirror. No, last cycle of anything was in 1989, my last contest. I'm 53 now. My workouts and lifestyle have always been bodybuilding, now I'm just a smaller version of what I used to be. Though I did make my daughters 23yr old boyfriend throw up from a leg workout a couple weeks ago. Figured you guys would appreciate that. I'll try to find some old pic's when I was much bigger.

awesome! and YES we love the fact that a 53 year old kicked a 23 year old's ass!

[JD250]

Nice!! I've read that article before on the main page I believe, My understanding of deca is that to get the best collogen effects you should be at 200 mg test a week or less with matching Deca dose...........but as that write up expressed .....for the full anabolic effect you should go much higher.....keep your test levels up so your weiner doesn't go limp........keep us posted.......I plan on doing a little MORE deca late next winter.

[kelkel]

I will keep you posted. It's been one of my goals to not let the young bucks get the better of me. Even though I'm stuck in my basement gym with the basics, thats all you really need. I'm planning on continuing the a-gel dosage as well during this cycle so T levels should be good to go. Considering picking up some Powerblocks to add to my little gym. Anybody have experience with them? Good/bad?

Thanks guys! In negotiations with a clinic as we speak....