Alternate test and deca! for blast!

[bass]

OK, i can't seem to get this right, when i use the same syringe to draw test and then draw deca it always comes short! my question is, if i am blasting, can i inject test lets say every Sunday and deca every Wednesday in stead of both together? this way the dose will be small enough to tolerate and i can get the measurements more accurate! what do you think, any objections alternating test and deca like this?

yup, i am back on the blast!

[38jumper38]

Good to know you'r blasting, what dosage you using? (curios).

[bass]

Good to know you'r blasting, what dosage you using? (curios).

well i was going to do 300 test and 300 deca , but now i got another problem! doc said to stop the test until my liver recovers! of course i'm not going to stop, this is not his field so I'll just keep at 160 mgs per week until my liver recovers then go from there!

[Bigd89]

well i was going to do 300 test and 300 deca, but now i got another problem! doc said to stop the test until my liver recovers! of course i'm not going to stop, this is not his field so I'll just keep at 160 mgs per week until my liver recovers then go from there!

Your TRT dose is 160mgs a week?

As far as loading in different barrels and shooting on different days...I don't see a problem. (Somebody correct me if im wrong)

[38jumper38]

well i was going to do 300 test and 300 deca, but now i got another problem! doc said to stop the test until my liver recovers! of course i'm not going to stop, this is not his field so I'll just keep at 160 mgs per week until my liver recovers then go from there!

Sounds good, how long you planing your blast?

[JD250]

Nice Bass, What flavor are you using, I'm going to assume it's nandrolone decanoate, that stuff will produce stable plasma levels for 10 days, might also note that it has been shown that you will have higher plasma nandrolone levels if you inject into your glutes. Should be able to shoot it whenever you please although I find it interesting that you always come up short when you double tap, I always come up long. I'm pinning 300 T ew and 200 D ew.....love it, don't be afraid to have cabor on hand.......I'll report more on that in a couple weeks.

What is this about stopping or reducing T because of liver issues.........how could injectable T possibly do anything to the liver? I don't think it can.

[HitIt]

I have some deca on the way and am planning on running it along side my test e..i'm currently on 200mg week test and plan on going with 100mg a week of deca...i do sub q trt and plan on doing the same with the deca...i wish the deca i'm getting came in a more concentrated dose per ml (100mg/ml) but since it's organon i won't complain too much. hopefully the deca will help my cuff but i'm running it out of curiosity as well, i must admit. i'll have some prami from arr on hand (they don't carry caber)

[bass]

Sounds good, how long you planing your blast?

i was planing to do 9 weeks! its not over yet, my clinic recommended injectable amino acids to treat the liver called L-Glutathione, so i ordered it and hopefully i can continue my blast!

[JD250]

You may not need the prami or caber at all, keep your e2 under control which I'm sure you already do being on 200T ew , and see if your libido is effected, it took about 5 weeks before I noticed my cuff pain feeling better, I now work shoulders like there was never an issue, no pain at all, however my cuff pain was somewhat minor to begin with but it did bother me everytime I lifted my arm.

[bass]

Nice Bass, What flavor are you using, I'm going to assume it's nandrolone decanoate, that stuff will produce stable plasma levels for 10 days, might also note that it has been shown that you will have higher plasma nandrolone levels if you inject into your glutes. Should be able to shoot it whenever you please although I find it interesting that you always come up short when you double tap, I always come up long. I'm pinning 300 T ew and 200 D ew.....love it, don't be afraid to have cabor on hand.......I'll report more on that in a couple weeks.

What is this about stopping or reducing T because of liver issues.........how could injectable T possibly do anything to the liver? I don't think it can.

JD, please clarify couple of things for me. what do you mean by "produce stable plasma levels"? and what is cabor? and yes i have nandrolone decanoate.

[JD250]

i was planing to do 9 weeks! its not over yet, my clinic recommended injectable amino acids to treat the liver called L-Glutathione, so i ordered it and hopefully i can continue my blast!

If you don't mind me asking Bass, why only 9 weeks?

[bass]

If you don't mind me asking Bass, why only 9 weeks?

thats all the deca i have!

[JD250]

JD, please clarify couple of things for me. what do you mean by "produce stable plasma levels"? and what is cabor? and yes i have nandrolone decanoate.

I mean to say that you will have stable levels of nandrolone in your blood.

Caborgoline is used to combat high prolactin levels......Deca is a progestin, it doesn't convert to e2 readily but it will raise prolactin levels which in turn will make your wiener(not the congressman) go limp. (deca dick) ARR has liquip Prami which has a similar effect, cabor at first glance is extremely expensive but as I've been shown recently, it can be had at a very cheap price, and you dont need to take very much or very often. If at all.


Oh....9 weeks worth of Deca....I see......get more.

[bass]

I mean to say that you will have stable levels of nandrolone in your blood.

Caborgoline is used to combat high prolactin levels......Deca is a progestin, it doesn't convert to e2 readily but it will raise prolactin levels which in turn will make your wiener(not the congressman) go limp. (deca dick) ARR has liquip Prami which has a similar effect, cabor at first glance is extremely expensive but as I've been shown recently, it can be had at a very cheap price, and you dont need to take very much or very often. If at all.


Oh....9 weeks worth of Deca....I see......get more.

Thanks JD, yea maybe i should wait and get another deca vial then do a blast for 14 weeks! but my joints are loving it, i missed one does of deca since i started the blast initially, maybe i should finish the opened vial I have and save the unopened one until i get another one!

[Black]

I'm curious about this liver issue and stopping the test because of it. What caused it, what was it, etc?

[bass]

i really have no clue! usually liver get effected when taking drugs orally, but the only thing i took was ibuprofen 400 mgs per day and baby aspirin one a day, but i stopped ibuprofen about 10 days prior to my blood work, but aspirin i was taking daily. another thing i did was draw my own blood, not sure if i got myself infected! i doubt it though, everything was clean and sanitized, besides i pin myself 3 times a week test and hCG ! BTW, hCG is another new addition, not sure if that has anything to do with liver!

[zaggahamma]

regarding your op bass,

i dont see how it wouldnt be ok...what would be your theory it wouldnt?

[bass]

regarding your op bass,

i dont see how it wouldnt be ok...what would be your theory it wouldnt?

no i thought it would be fine! but just wanted to make sure its okay to inject test only on one day and deca only on another day!

[Black]

no i thought it would be fine! but just wanted to make sure its okay to inject test only on one day and deca only on another day!

I actually don't like drawing multiple solutions into one syringe. I don't feel like I get accurate dosing.

As far as your liver, HCG shouldn't affect it. I've heard Arimidex (if you are taking that) can have a negative impact on your liver. I wouldn't think the NSAID at that dose would do such noticeable damage. What bloodwork results determined liver problems?

[subnet]

bass - I was asking myself these same questions today as I have a scrip of deca on the way. My TRT dose is 200mg/week of Test C, and the doc said to run 200mg/week deca as well. I have had thoughts of bumping the Test C up to the same 300mg/week level you and JD mentioned.

One thing that I'm unsure of, is that they also said to raise my arimidex to .5mg eod. I'm afraid of high E2. Not sure if this will be too much AI?

[zaggahamma]

bass - I was asking myself these same questions today as I have a scrip of deca on the way. My TRT dose is 200mg/week of Test C, and the doc said to run 200mg/week deca as well. I have had thoughts of bumping the Test C up to the same 300mg/week level you and JD mentioned.

One thing that I'm unsure of, is that they also said to raise my arimidex to .5mg eod. I'm afraid of high E2. Not sure if this will be too much AI?

i dont think so

[JD250]

With what I'm using at the current time I actually upped my AI to .5mg eod and it seems to work about right, certainly not too much.

[bass]

I actually don't like drawing multiple solutions into one syringe. I don't feel like I get accurate dosing.

As far as your liver, HCG shouldn't affect it. I've heard Arimidex (if you are taking that) can have a negative impact on your liver. I wouldn't think the NSAID at that dose would do such noticeable damage. What bloodwork results determined liver problems?

the only thing came negative was the AST at 43 range is 0-40, its not too bad but i like it to be in range! right now i am taking milk thistle and the clinic is shipping injectable amino acids (L-Glutathione) to help get my liver back to normal. yes i am taking anastrozole 1/2 mg 4 times a week, but now i have to up it to 5 times a week due to my e2 which went up to the upper normal range, i like it to be at around 30 or less. here is my resent blood work,

[bass]

bass - I was asking myself these same questions today as I have a scrip of deca on the way. My TRT dose is 200mg/week of Test C, and the doc said to run 200mg/week deca as well. I have had thoughts of bumping the Test C up to the same 300mg/week level you and JD mentioned.

One thing that I'm unsure of, is that they also said to raise my arimidex to .5mg eod. I'm afraid of high E2. Not sure if this will be too much AI?

i'm pretty sure that anastrozole has an effect on the liver and the little NSAID along with aspirin took it over the edge!

[Black]

Thanks for posting results. Yeah, that's not too bad and I am like you. I want numbers in range. I'm going to have to do some research on injectable amino acids and its impact on the liver (new to me).

Also, looks like you are withdrawling enough of your own blood to put your hemtocrit back into range.

[bass]

one pint! i am going to another blood drive next month and see if i can donate with them, so i don't have to do it my self. but at least now i know how to do it my self if i need to!

[kelkel]

Ok bass, explain how you did it yourself please? Trying to picture this.......then what did you do with it?

[bass]

sat on the toilet, with the lid down of course! satirize everything, took an 18 g. needle, connect a 5/32 clear tubing to it, connected the other end to a 16 oz. bottle, wrapped the blood pressure meter band on my upper arm just like they do at blood drives so the veins pop up, then stick the needle in just like how they do it at blood drive, loosen the band a little then watch the blood rush into the bottle while i squeeze a sponge ball! after i am done, i place a gauze on the needle then draw the needle out and apply pressure on the gauze for a minute or so, then tape it just like they do at the blood drive. of course i get everything ready fist because i only have on hand to work with. oh and then i flushed the blood down the toilet. don't worry i have a septic tank so it doesn't get in the public sewer!

[kelkel]

Like a scene from a movie. I'm impressed!

[zaggahamma]

Like a scene from a movie. I'm impressed!

he's definitely dramatic

[kelkel]

Oh he painted a picture alright....Imagine the wife/girlfriend walking in.....jeez!

[38jumper38]

sat on the toilet, with the lid down of course! satirize everything, took an 18 g. needle, connect a 5/32 clear tubing to it, connected the other end to a 16 oz. bottle, wrapped the blood pressure meter band on my upper arm just like they do at blood drives so the veins pop up, then stick the needle in just like how they do it at blood drive, loosen the band a little then watch the blood rush into the bottle while i squeeze a sponge ball! after i am done, i place a gauze on the needle then draw the needle out and apply pressure on the gauze for a minute or so, then tape it just like they do at the blood drive. of course i get everything ready fist because i only have on hand to work with. oh and then i flushed the blood down the toilet. don't worry i have a septic tank so it doesn't get in the public sewer!

You are "the man".
Can't even thing about doing myself.

[GotNoBlueMilk]

Wow! uTube material!

But flushing the blood? Should have put in in the freezer ala Kramer of Seinfeld.

[bass]

You are "the man".
Can't even thing about doing myself.

when you're cornered anything goes! my blood was thick and was feeling like crap, my clinic was taking too long to write a script to get my blood drained, and you know the story at the blood drive, so i had no choice!

[oscarjones]

Increased AST can be a result of mere exercise and physical stress. Try testing your blood after 2-4 days of rest from lifting. I bet they'll be in the normal ranges. Besides you only really need to worry about lipid panels when they are like the triple digits, pretty much.

[bass]

Increased AST can be a result of mere exercise and physical stress. Try testing your blood after 2-4 days of rest from lifting. I bet they'll be in the normal ranges. Besides you only really need to worry about lipid panels when they are like the triple digits, pretty much.

interesting, i have been doing allot more cardio than usual! but i'll keep that in mind!

[zaggahamma]

interesting, i have been doing allot more cardio than usual! but i'll keep that in mind!

have u noticed a drop in bf%?

[Sledgehammer1]

Hey Bass, I see that your hemacrit /hemoglobin lowered to within the normal range as compared to your prior labs. Im actually going through the same as u. My hemocrit/ hemoglobin are in the high range and I called United blood services and asked if they would take my donation on Test Cyp and she said yes, but it depended on my iron levels. Shes said they would test on the spot to see if my iron was in range to be able to donate. If not, I could get a script from my Dr. for a therapeutic draw. By the way much respect on drawing ur own blood bro.

Yes u can do injections of test/ deca on different days. Just make sure to make a note on a calender to remind u of what days u inject on. That is what I do. I take Test/Nandrolone Phenypropionate aka(Durabolin ) for my Trt. I cycle like twice a year and have gone as high as 600mg of Npp without having any prolactin sides. Although everyone is different, u should have no problems on 300mg Deca with an AI to need caber. Cabergolone effects growth of new brain cells.

[bass]

have u noticed a drop in bf%?

yes i have, about 1.5% on the omron monitor! on the monitor i am at 18.1%, thats from 21% since i started TRT!

[bass]

Hey Bass, I see that your hemacrit /hemoglobin lowered to within the normal range as compared to your prior labs. Im actually going through the same as u. My hemocrit/ hemoglobin are in the high range and I called United blood services and asked if they would take my donation on Test Cyp and she said yes, but it depended on my iron levels. Shes said they would test on the spot to see if my iron was in range to be able to donate. If not, I could get a script from my Dr. for a therapeutic draw. By the way much respect on drawing ur own blood bro.

Yes u can do injections of test/ deca on different days. Just make sure to make a note on a calender to remind u of what days u inject on. That is what I do. I take Test/Nandrolone Phenypropionate aka(Durabolin) for my Trt. I cycle like twice a year and have gone as high as 600mg of Npp without having any prolactin sides. Although everyone is different, u should have no problems on 300mg Deca with an AI to need caber. Cabergolone effects growth of new brain cells.

hey thanks for the info Sledge! i hope you don't have to get a script, it cost me $82! i called the blood drive center that refused me and asked if the information is shared to other blood drive center not affiliated with them and they said no, every center has different rules, so i am hoping my level stay in range when i do to another blood drive center! I'll do blood work before i go!