Letro + Nolva for teen "gyno"?

[nidhogg]

I have been cutting for the last month and a half and its been going well, although i notice zero reduction in love handles and lower pecs area. I had puffy nipples since i entered puberty, went to the doc to check for gyno and he said i shouldnt worry. I have no lumps but its basically a stubborn fat deposit there.

This is something i want to correct before i go on any cycle.
Im 6'2, 190lbs, 16% BF(tape measurement method, i believe its lower due to stubborn love handles).

Currently im taking TTA, 7-keto and EC stack.

Im considering adding 1.25mg letro EOD and 20mg nolva ED to try and correct this, or is it overkill? I tried arimidex at 0.25 EOD and it did nothing for me

I have had bloodwork and it showed pretty high E2 levels, 33mg/dl

[sirupate]

That's not that high a level of E2, at least for us old guys. I don't know how old you are, but I'd certainly be careful at your age about this stuff. Letro is supposed to be very powerful. Not sure what else to say.

[GotNoBlueMilk]

If you have no lumps, you have no gyno. You are just fat. I know this is a harsh statement, but it gets harsher . . .

If you do a cycle as a teenager you are a complete idiot!

Having said that, 33 mg/dl E2 is not bad. Not great but not bad. Doing a cycle will not lower your bodyfat. It will add muscle if you do other things properly, but it will not lower body fat. The cycle, along with Letro and Nolva will completely mess up your hormones, and at young age you very well would mess them up for life!

If you want to not be fat, diet, do aerobics. Instead of taking drugs, stop taking food.

Now, if you are destined to be a complete idiot go over to the cycle and PCT forums. This is for HRT, which has nothing to do witih teenagers.

[GotNoBlueMilk]

Oh, I forgot to ask in my last post: How will you feel being a bald teenager? Enjoy your cycle, Letro, and Nolva!

[NOSUPERMODEL]

I have a lump under my nipple area that I have ever since I was a teenager also. Would Letro help me? I do not if its gyno or not, or if its just fatty deposit. I have never done gear until I started HRT. The tissue is kind of hard to the touch. The left one is 10x as bad as the right one. I always wondered if it was gyno or just fat under there. But I can't seem to lose it not matter what weight I am at.

[GotNoBlueMilk]

Once you get out of puberty, if you still have gyno (a lump) then Letro and Nolva won't make it go away. If you have newly formed gyno, you can get rid of it with Letro, usually. Nolva works too, but not as often and you have to take Nolva for 6+ months.

[nidhogg]

If you have no lumps, you have no gyno. You are just fat. I know this is a harsh statement, but it gets harsher . . .

If you do a cycle as a teenager you are a complete idiot!

Having said that, 33 mg/dl E2 is not bad. Not great but not bad. Doing a cycle will not lower your bodyfat. It will add muscle if you do other things properly, but it will not lower body fat. The cycle, along with Letro and Nolva will completely mess up your hormones, and at young age you very well would mess them up for life!

If you want to not be fat, diet, do aerobics. Instead of taking drugs, stop taking food.

Now, if you are destined to be a complete idiot go over to the cycle and PCT forums. This is for HRT, which has nothing to do witih teenagers.

What the **** are you talking about?

Im 25, im cutting, i said i wanted to get rid of the stubborn FAT around my nipples(estrogen related) which i have had since i entered puberty before i do ANY CYCLE.

Are you illiterate? I appretiate your help but when you start bashing after making up a scenario in your head you go way out of line. Where the hell did you get that i was a teenager and i cycled from?

And just for the record. the sub forum is for "Hormone Replacement Therapy, Longevity, Wellness, Anti-Aging, Alternative Medicine". Just nothing about your post makes any sense. Im sorry but that had to be the most pathetic attempt to help a person i have ever seen in my entire life LMAO

[JD250]

Actually, That was the best attempt at help I've ever seen considering the circumstances.......GNBM can and will speak for himself but I'll tell you why he responded that way.......the title of your post is easily misunderstood, that's where he got the idea you were a teenager, I thought the same thing. Under that misconception his advice was EXCELLENT and to the point, a teenager doing a cycle is stupid and wont earn themselves any sympathy amongst people like GNBM, who by the way.....knows his shit about this stuff.


A misunderstanding I'm sure.

[nidhogg]

I dont see how this can be misconcieved, teen gyno is a common conception for natural gyno or "pseudo gyno" which some like to refer it as developed during pubertal years. Maybe if you take gyno out of context and simply read "Letro + Nolva for teen"

Either way he could have asked for clarification before he started bashing, who the **** is he? Dirty Harry?

[GotNoBlueMilk]

I'll go through my reasoning, but it won't make you any happier.

First, you have "teen" in your title. Nowhere in your original post do you mention an age. Why should I have to inquire about your age after you already identified yourself as a teen. Now maybe you are 25 as you later indicated; however, behavior analytics would put a 92% chance that you are lying about being 25, and that you really are a teenager. Deny the fact that you are a teenager all you want, but I'll go with the proven 92% odds.

Next, comes the part where you went to a doctor about your fat and was told it wasn't gyno by the doctor. Yet here you want to know if Letro and Novla will help your "gyno". Again, please read the subject of your own thread. YOU said this. Yes, later you claim it may be fat and not gyno, but obviously you don't want to believe this. How do I know? Because you have obviously done considerable research, you found Nolva and Letro. You don't mention other AI's other than the one you tried, just the two that have been shown to help gyno. So your research must have been pretty in depth. Yet you ignored the part you found in your research that pointed out that Letro and Nolva only help gyno not fat deposits. Conclusion: you are in denial that it is fat and not gyno. This is a shame because fat can easily be removed by diet and exercise. (Oh, by the way, the denial on the fat part puts your original age lie at 97% certainty when combined with a denial input into the neural net).

Next, you propose doing a cycle -- a TEEN doing a cycle. Enough said about that.

Finally, I see that you aren't even in the correct forum for your post. Please don't call people illiterate when you can't even read the forum topic.

So my conclusion from all of your informative information both stated directly and indirectly: A teen that clearly has fat deposits, in denial and wants to believe that it is gyno so he can just do chemicals to fix it and make his body look good. If it is gyno it would be an option, a bad option but an option. Instead it is a terrible idea because it isn't gyno it is fat.

So this brings me back to my original statement: You are fat! Now wake up and act accordingly and you can save yourself lots of problems from putting chemicals into your teenage body. You may not like how I put it to you, but given the fact that you didn’t believe the doc I doubted you would believe me either. Clearly my post stuck in your head, so I accomplished part of my goal. Now if you skip the chemicals and go diet and workout you will have benefited from my post. If you ignore it completely, it’s your health and I have at least done as much as I can to WAKE YOU UP TO REALITY