Blood results....I need help

[NOSUPERMODEL]

Okay, so this it after 11 pins on TRT. The following is my protocal from the beginning

VERY BEGINNING
200mgs Test Cyp EW
10mg of Tamoxifen on shot day

RESULTS AFTER 6 WEEKS ON
Testosterone 693 Range 241-827 (This was actually 9 days after a shot)
Estradiol 60 Range 13-54
PSA .5 Range < or =4.0ng/ML

6 WEEKS UNTIL PRESENT BLOOD WORK
250mgs Test Cyp EW
10mg of Tamoxifen on shot day
.25mg of Anastrozole EOD

RESULTS THIS TIME....I HAD HIM DO A FULL PANEL BECAUSE I WANTED TO KNOW WHY I WASN'T FEELING LIKE "SUPERMAN" AND THE FAT LOSS WAS NOT HAPPENING. PLUS JUST SO HE HAS A FULL PANEL ON RECORD

LIPID PANEL WITH REFLEX TO DIRECT LDL
Cholesterol, Total 170 Range 125-200mg/dL
HDL Cholesterol 37 LOW Range >or = 40mg/dL
Triglycerides 86 Range >150mg/dL
LDL-Cholesterol 116 Range <130 mg/dL
Chol/HDLC Ratio 4.6 Range , OR =5.0

COMPREHENSIVE METABOLIC PANEL
Glucose 80 Range 65-99 mg/dL

Urea Nitrogen(BUN) 23 Range 7-25 mg/dL
Creatine 1.01 Range .79-1.33 mg/dL
eGFR NON-AFR. AMERICAN 97 Range . OR = 60mL/min/1.73m2
Bun/Creatine Ratio NOT APPLICABLE
Sodium 139 Range 135-146mmoL/L
Potassium 4.3 Range 3.5-5.3 mmol/L
Chloride 103 Range 98-110 mmol/L
Carbon Dioxide 26 Range 21-33 mmol/L
Calcium 9.9 Range 8.6-10.2 mg/dL
Protein,TOTAL 7.6 Range 6.2-8.3 g/dL
Albumin 4.9 Range 3.6-5.1 g/dL
Globulin 2.7 Range 2.1-3.7g/dL(calc)
Albumin/Globulin Ratio 1.8 range 1.0-2.1(calc)
Bilirubin, TOTAL 0.7 Range 0.2-1.2 mg/dL
Alkaline Phosphate 55 Range 40-115U/L
AST 25 Range 10-40U/L
ALT 27 Range 9-60 U/L

TSH, 3rd Generation 2.55 Range .40-4.50mIU/L

T4, FREE 1.2 Range 0.8-1.8 ng/dL
T3, FREE 3.3 Range 2.3-4.2 pg.mL

THYROID PEROXIDASE
Antibodies <10 Range <35IU/mL

CBC(INCLUDES DIFF/PLT)
White Blood Cell Count 5.1 Range 3.8-10.8 Thousand/uL
Red Blood Cell Count 4.88 Range 4.20-5.80 Million/uL
Hemoglobin 15.8 Range 13.2-17.1 g/dL
Hematocrit 46.4 Range 38.5-50.0%
MCV 95.2 Range 80.0-100.0 fL
MCH 32.4 Range 27-33 pg
MCHC 34 Range 32-36g/dL
RDW 14.0 Range 11.0-15.0%
Platelet Count 239 Range 140-400 Thousand/uL
Absolute Neutrophils 3514 Range 1500-***0 cells/uL
Absolute Lymphocytes 1091 Range 850-3900 cells u/L
Absolute Monocytes 393 Range 200-950 cells/uL
Absolute Eosinophils 77 Range 15-500 cells/uL
Absolute Basophils 26 Range 0-200 cells/uL

TESTOSTERONE, TOTAL, MALES 785 Range 241-827ng/dL
Estradiol 64 HIGH Range 13-54 pg.mL
PSA, TOTAL 0.7 Range < OR = 4.0 ng/mL

Can someone please help me figure out what I need to do to get this estrogen down.

THIS IS MY PROTOCAL AS OF SEEING HIM LAST WEEK(BEFORE HE GOT RESULTS IN)

250 mg Test Cyp EW
1mg of Anastozole Monday, Wednesday, Friday

I will say this, since I started taking the 1 mg pills this week, I have lost 4 pounds on the scale. I know its probably water weight, but could it be I need to take this much AI to keep my estrogen low.

When should I go back and do more blood work? Is there anything I should tell him to test for this next time that he did not test for this time?

Any advice or interpretation on these results would be very appreciated. Thanks in advance.

[38jumper38]

Anastrazole is very strong, will do the job, take some time to work out, by the time you have your next blood work done, will show normal levels.
The only thing keep me wonder about your results is your test levels at 693, at that dose you taking you should be around 800 or even more. My question is: were the levels very low, prior your TRT?

[GotNoBlueMilk]

You weren't feeling like superman and couldn't lose weight because of the high E2.

I think 693 on day 9 after a T shot is not low. This is really the trough level, and after 9 days that is a good level.

[sirupate]

Is free test. being measured? I guess you can infer that free is a bit low compared to total because of the high E2. I've seen 1mg. anastrazole per 100mgs. test as being a guide, or rule of thumb....so 3mgs. per week with 250mg. test could be about right.

[NOSUPERMODEL]

Anastrazole is very strong, will do the job, take some time to work out, by the time you have your next blood work done, will show normal levels.
The only thing keep me wonder about your results is your test levels at 693, at that dose you taking you should be around 800 or even more. My question is: were the levels very low, prior your TRT?

They are 785 now. I posted the results of my blood work after 6 weeks and then after 11 weeks. Look towards the bottom. My results were in the low 400's I believe when I started. I thought they would be higher to. But until i get this estrogen under control I do now want to raise my dosage. I have already upped my dosage of Anastrazole from the .25mg EOD to 1 mg Monday, Wednesday, Friday.

[NOSUPERMODEL]

You weren't feeling like superman and couldn't lose weight because of the high E2.

I think 693 on day 9 after a T shot is not low. This is really the trough level, and after 9 days that is a good level.

I think you are looking at the first result also. Look towards the bottom where I have my new test numbers posted. 785 after 6 days.

[NOSUPERMODEL]

Just so nobody is confused

RESULTS AFTER 6 WEEKS ON
Testosterone 693 Range 241-827 (This was actually 9 days after a shot)
Estradiol 60 Range 13-54
PSA .5 Range < or =4.0ng/ML

RESULTS AFTER 11 WEEKS

TESTOSTERONE, TOTAL, MALES 785 Range 241-827ng/dL
Estradiol 64 HIGH Range 13-54 pg.mL
PSA, TOTAL 0.7 Range < OR = 4.0 ng/mL
TSH, 3rd Generation 2.55 Range .40-4.50mIU/L

T4, FREE 1.2 Range 0.8-1.8 ng/dL
T3, FREE 3.3 Range 2.3-4.2 pg.mL

[NOSUPERMODEL]

I can't remember right now if he tested my T3 and T4 the first time I saw him. I can look at my first results and see though to see if they have changed.

[sirupate]

I don't know how well it will work, but you can split your test. dosages into 2 or 3 per week hoping to prevent some of the conversion to E2. Not sure how well you like pinning or if you would want to pin that often. I forget what you are using...but I am trying a slim pin (29G, .5", .5ml) on Sunday morning to see if it feels any easier.

[NOSUPERMODEL]

I don't know how well it will work, but you can split your test. dosages into 2 or 3 per week hoping to prevent some of the conversion to E2. Not sure how well you like pinning or if you would want to pin that often. I forget what you are using...but I am trying a slim pin (29G, .5", .5ml) on Sunday morning to see if it feels any easier.

No the pinning does not bother me. I actually look forward to my Thursday nights. LOL!!! I am going to stay with what I am doing now. I only want to change one thing at a time. This time I am upping my AI dose. If I change to many variables I won't know what is working and what is not.

[bass]

You weren't feeling like superman and couldn't lose weight because of the high E2.

I think 693 on day 9 after a T shot is not low. This is really the trough level, and after 9 days that is a good level.

right on both counts!

[steroid.com 1]

Your TSH is a little high but T3 and T4 present a healthy Thyroid (albeit it's working a bit hard).

Aromatase is converting T to your high E2 so your Total T values are not optimized. I don't see that your E2 was a sensitivity assay...should be to get accurate values.

Need an AI and as suggested earlier 1 mg per 100 mg of Test then evaluate in 6 weeks. There are some natural remedies as well like taking 90 mg of Zinc a day and also look into DIM. IMO, however, you need a pharmacy grade AI.

You will feel a ton better when you get below 30 and the weight will start to come off as well.

Get the AI ASAP.

[NOSUPERMODEL]

Your TSH is a little high but T3 and T4 present a healthy Thyroid (albeit it's working a bit hard).

Aromatase is converting T to your high E2 so your Total T values are not optimized. I don't see that your E2 was a sensitivity assay...should be to get accurate values.

Need an AI and as suggested earlier 1 mg per 100 mg of Test then evaluate in 6 weeks. There are some natural remedies as well like taking 90 mg of Zinc a day and also look into DIM. IMO, however, you need a pharmacy grade AI.

You will feel a ton better when you get below 30 and the weight will start to come off as well.

Get the AI ASAP.

I was on an AI....25mgs Anastazole EOD. I also take DIM. What do you mean my thyroid is working hard? How do i get my TSH a little lower?

[zaggahamma]

Okay, so this it after 11 pins on TRT. The following is my protocal from the beginning

VERY BEGINNING
200mgs Test Cyp EW
10mg of Tamoxifen on shot day

RESULTS AFTER 6 WEEKS ON
Testosterone 693 Range 241-827 (This was actually 9 days after a shot)
Estradiol 60 Range 13-54
PSA .5 Range < or =4.0ng/ML

6 WEEKS UNTIL PRESENT BLOOD WORK
250mgs Test Cyp EW
10mg of Tamoxifen on shot day
.25mg of Anastrozole EOD

RESULTS THIS TIME....I HAD HIM DO A FULL PANEL BECAUSE I WANTED TO KNOW WHY I WASN'T FEELING LIKE "SUPERMAN" AND THE FAT LOSS WAS NOT HAPPENING. PLUS JUST SO HE HAS A FULL PANEL ON RECORD

LIPID PANEL WITH REFLEX TO DIRECT LDL
Cholesterol, Total 170 Range 125-200mg/dL
HDL Cholesterol 37 LOW Range >or = 40mg/dL
Triglycerides 86 Range >150mg/dL
LDL-Cholesterol 116 Range <130 mg/dL
Chol/HDLC Ratio 4.6 Range , OR =5.0

COMPREHENSIVE METABOLIC PANEL
Glucose 80 Range 65-99 mg/dL

Urea Nitrogen(BUN) 23 Range 7-25 mg/dL
Creatine 1.01 Range .79-1.33 mg/dL
eGFR NON-AFR. AMERICAN 97 Range . OR = 60mL/min/1.73m2
Bun/Creatine Ratio NOT APPLICABLE
Sodium 139 Range 135-146mmoL/L
Potassium 4.3 Range 3.5-5.3 mmol/L
Chloride 103 Range 98-110 mmol/L
Carbon Dioxide 26 Range 21-33 mmol/L
Calcium 9.9 Range 8.6-10.2 mg/dL
Protein,TOTAL 7.6 Range 6.2-8.3 g/dL
Albumin 4.9 Range 3.6-5.1 g/dL
Globulin 2.7 Range 2.1-3.7g/dL(calc)
Albumin/Globulin Ratio 1.8 range 1.0-2.1(calc)
Bilirubin, TOTAL 0.7 Range 0.2-1.2 mg/dL
Alkaline Phosphate 55 Range 40-115U/L
AST 25 Range 10-40U/L
ALT 27 Range 9-60 U/L

TSH, 3rd Generation 2.55 Range .40-4.50mIU/L

T4, FREE 1.2 Range 0.8-1.8 ng/dL
T3, FREE 3.3 Range 2.3-4.2 pg.mL

THYROID PEROXIDASE
Antibodies <10 Range <35IU/mL

CBC(INCLUDES DIFF/PLT)
White Blood Cell Count 5.1 Range 3.8-10.8 Thousand/uL
Red Blood Cell Count 4.88 Range 4.20-5.80 Million/uL
Hemoglobin 15.8 Range 13.2-17.1 g/dL
Hematocrit 46.4 Range 38.5-50.0%
MCV 95.2 Range 80.0-100.0 fL
MCH 32.4 Range 27-33 pg
MCHC 34 Range 32-36g/dL
RDW 14.0 Range 11.0-15.0%
Platelet Count 239 Range 140-400 Thousand/uL
Absolute Neutrophils 3514 Range 1500-***0 cells/uL
Absolute Lymphocytes 1091 Range 850-3900 cells u/L
Absolute Monocytes 393 Range 200-950 cells/uL
Absolute Eosinophils 77 Range 15-500 cells/uL
Absolute Basophils 26 Range 0-200 cells/uL

TESTOSTERONE, TOTAL, MALES 785 Range 241-827ng/dL
Estradiol 64 HIGH Range 13-54 pg.mL
PSA, TOTAL 0.7 Range < OR = 4.0 ng/mL

Can someone please help me figure out what I need to do to get this estrogen down.

THIS IS MY PROTOCAL AS OF SEEING HIM LAST WEEK(BEFORE HE GOT RESULTS IN)

250 mg Test Cyp EW
1mg of Anastozole Monday, Wednesday, Friday

I will say this, since I started taking the 1 mg pills this week, I have lost 4 pounds on the scale. I know its probably water weight, but could it be I need to take this much AI to keep my estrogen low.

When should I go back and do more blood work? Is there anything I should tell him to test for this next time that he did not test for this time?

Any advice or interpretation on these results would be very appreciated. Thanks in advance.

i think yes..


and test your e2 again after the 1mg eod in 2-4 weeks if you can...

my .02

[steroid.com 1]

i think yes..


and test your e2 again after the 1mg eod in 2-4 weeks if you can...

my .02

Sorry NSM, missed the part on the AI.

I agree with Jman; 3 mgs a week on 250 mg of T is a bit aggressive and will have an immediate affect on inhibiting the production of your aromatase enzymes. You should feel and see results within day (like you are)!

As for your question re TSH (and Slimmerme can chime in here as well); anything over a 1 is suspect of a problem and anything over 2 should be investigated and over 3 real potential problem. The lab ranges for TSH are way out of whack and most Endo's know this. Many labs are starting to change them now.

All that being said, your Free T3 and T4 are great so you don't have any real issues. Try adding iodized salt to your diet, make sure your multi has iodine in it and you can try some kelp supplements to make sure your thyroid is getting the right amount of iodine. Our diets don't have a lot of iodine anymore, and with people taking less salt many folks walk around with under supplied iodine stores in their thyroid...not a good thing for obvious reasons.

[NOSUPERMODEL]

Thank you fir the response. I don't use that much salt. And a lot of the times I use the fake salt. I will check my multiple vitamin. How much iodine should I require. I will also look into the kelp. Should I stay on the 1mg dose of Anastrazole until I go back for blood work again? When should I go back? 6 weeks?

Is there anything else I should look into fixing?

Sorry NSM, missed the part on the AI.

I agree with Jman; 3 mgs a week on 250 mg of T is a bit aggressive and will have an immediate affect on inhibiting the production of your aromatase enzymes. You should feel and see results within day (like you are)!

As for your question re TSH (and Slimmerme can chime in here as well); anything over a 1 is suspect of a problem and anything over 2 should be investigated and over 3 real potential problem. The lab ranges for TSH are way out of whack and most Endo's know this. Many labs are starting to change them now.

All that being said, your Free T3 and T4 are great so you don't have any real issues. Try adding iodized salt to your diet, make sure your multi has iodine in it and you can try some kelp supplements to make sure your thyroid is getting the right amount of iodine. Our diets don't have a lot of iodine anymore, and with people taking less salt many folks walk around with under supplied iodine stores in their thyroid...not a good thing for obvious reasons.

[NOSUPERMODEL]

Thank you fir the response. I don't use that much salt. And a lot of the times I use the fake salt. I will check my multiple vitamin. How much iodine should I require. I will also look into the kelp. Should I stay on the 1mg dose of Anastrazole until I go back for blood work again? When should I go back? 6 weeks?

Is there anything else I should look into fixing?

Sorry NSM, missed the part on the AI.

I agree with Jman; 3 mgs a week on 250 mg of T is a bit aggressive and will have an immediate affect on inhibiting the production of your aromatase enzymes. You should feel and see results within day (like you are)!

As for your question re TSH (and Slimmerme can chime in here as well); anything over a 1 is suspect of a problem and anything over 2 should be investigated and over 3 real potential problem. The lab ranges for TSH are way out of whack and most Endo's know this. Many labs are starting to change them now.

All that being said, your Free T3 and T4 are great so you don't have any real issues. Try adding iodized salt to your diet, make sure your multi has iodine in it and you can try some kelp supplements to make sure your thyroid is getting the right amount of iodine. Our diets don't have a lot of iodine anymore, and with people taking less salt many folks walk around with under supplied iodine stores in their thyroid...not a good thing for obvious reasons.

[steroid.com 1]

This:
THIS IS MY PROTOCAL AS OF SEEING HIM LAST WEEK(BEFORE HE GOT RESULTS IN)

250 mg Test Cyp EW
1mg of Anastrozole Monday, Wednesday, Friday

Then this:
Should I stay on the 1mg dose of Anastrozole until I go back for blood work again?

Hey man, I guess I am confused. Are you taking 1 mg of your AI on Monday, Wednesday and Friday with the equivalent being 3 mg? Your post above says you're taking 1 mg a week. Reading your posts I can't figure out what you are taking. Or maybe it's just me

At 250 mg of T Cyp rule of thumb starting out would be 2.5 mg of an AI per week taking EOD or split in two (1.25 mg) and taking the same day of your T injection (assuming you inject twice a week of course).

Again, maybe it's me, but can you tell us how of an AI you are taking and when?

Thanks man.

[NOSUPERMODEL]

I am taking 1mg Minday, Wednesday and Friday for a total of 3 mg a week. My shots are on Thursday.

[JD250]

Did you try .5 mg anastrozol eod or did you jump from .25 to 1 mg?

[NOSUPERMODEL]

Did you try .5 mg anastrozol eod or did you jump from .25 to 1 mg?

I jumped right into the 1 mg dose. I am going to try this for about 6 weeks and see what happens. My reasoning behind that is that my estrogen was at 60 without an AI, then I started .25mgs EOD and it was at 64. So I figure if .25 did nothing, what is .50 going to do.

[bass]

I jumped right into the 1 mg dose. I am going to try this for about 6 weeks and see what happens. My reasoning behind that is that my estrogen was at 60 without an AI, then I started .25mgs EOD and it was at 64. So I figure if .25 did nothing, what is .50 going to do.

you'll be surprised how far you can drop your levels with adding another 0.25 to your dose! i am on 300 mgs of test and 300 mgs deca per week and only take .5 mgs 5 days a week, thats a total of 2.5 mgs a week and my E2 is less than 30, so far!

[zaggahamma]

you'll be surprised how far you can drop your levels with adding another 0.25 to your dose! i am on 300 mgs of test and 300 mgs deca per week and only take .5 mgs 5 days a week, thats a total of 2.5 mgs a week and my E2 is less than 30, so far!

this is what i was going to say....and to add...the 3mg a week would be ok but 6 weeks of it without testing might get you too low....60 isnt super high...just sayin

[NOSUPERMODEL]

What should I be looking at in terms of sides IF I am going to stick with the 1 mg Monday, Wednesday, Friday before I go back for blood work?

[bass]

What should I be looking at in terms of sides IF I am going to stick with the 1 mg Monday, Wednesday, Friday before I go back for blood work?

check this out!

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...-High-Estrogen

[NOSUPERMODEL]

Thanks for the link. I am going to go back and test in 6 weeks. It just bugs the hell out of me, that I am not fully getting what I want out of TRT. I was talking to a buddy of mine this weekend and found out he is on TRT also. 200 mgs EW, says he is not taking an AI, and man he looks great. Put on a lot of size(So much everybody thought he was on a cycle) and lost a lot of weight, and feels great. And he has only been on for 7 weeks. So I don't understand what is going on. Why some people just have perfect results and I am struggling to get mine corrected.

I just want to get everything figured out and get my levels at the optimal point and really start getting the FULL benefits of TRT.

[NOSUPERMODEL]

Sorry NSM, missed the part on the AI.

I agree with Jman; 3 mgs a week on 250 mg of T is a bit aggressive and will have an immediate affect on inhibiting the production of your aromatase enzymes. You should feel and see results within day (like you are)!

As for your question re TSH (and Slimmerme can chime in here as well); anything over a 1 is suspect of a problem and anything over 2 should be investigated and over 3 real potential problem. The lab ranges for TSH are way out of whack and most Endo's know this. Many labs are starting to change them now.

All that being said, your Free T3 and T4 are great so you don't have any real issues. Try adding iodized salt to your diet, make sure your multi has iodine in it and you can try some kelp supplements to make sure your thyroid is getting the right amount of iodine. Our diets don't have a lot of iodine anymore, and with people taking less salt many folks walk around with under supplied iodine stores in their thyroid...not a good thing for obvious reasons.

Just checked my multivitamin(Optimum Nutrition Opti-Men) and it has 100mcg of Iodine(as kelp) in it. How much Iodine should I be taking a day?

[bass]

Thanks for the link. I am going to go back and test in 6 weeks. It just bugs the hell out of me, that I am not fully getting what I want out of TRT. I was talking to a buddy of mine this weekend and found out he is on TRT also. 200 mgs EW, says he is not taking an AI, and man he looks great. Put on a lot of size(So much everybody thought he was on a cycle) and lost a lot of weight, and feels great. And he has only been on for 7 weeks. So I don't understand what is going on. Why some people just have perfect results and I am struggling to get mine corrected.

I just want to get everything figured out and get my levels at the optimal point and really start getting the FULL benefits of TRT.

Genes my friend!

[NOSUPERMODEL]

Genes my friend!

Yeah I would say I was not even close to be blessed with great genes.

[NOSUPERMODEL]

I head back to the doctor August 4th to get my blood work done. Hopefully the new AI dosages will have dropped my estrogen down to the levels they need to be. I still have not seen any weight loss, but of course I have been slacking in the gym, and the lake weekends are killing me. So hard to be strict when its lake season and football season is fixing to get started up. Our group of friends on the football team tends to go out after the games and drink a few beers and watch college football. Hard to pass up a nice cold beer after you been in the sun all day long.

Should I get another full blood panel done or just check estrogen and test? What else should I get tested if I do not do a full blood panel?

[steroid.com 1]

Just checked my multivitamin(Optimum Nutrition Opti-Men) and it has 100mcg of Iodine(as kelp) in it. How much Iodine should I be taking a day?

That's low; you should be getting 400 mcg daily.

Also, best taken along with Iron and Sodium for better uptake. Look into Nature's Way Kelp, Sea - it has it all in one.

Also for Thyroid take 100 mg of selenium as well.

[zaggahamma]

nsm

pick one game a week to watch....sheeeeeeeeeeeeeez

[NOSUPERMODEL]

nsm

pick one game a week to watch....sheeeeeeeeeeeeeez

I know that is what I should do. I am just in a funk right now. I had a horrible four days on Memorial Day weekend and I have not been able to get back on track solid since then. It all changes this week though.

[NOSUPERMODEL]

What about the blood test this time? Also could the alcohol consumption on weekends only be keeping my estrogen levels up. And by the way its beer that I am drinking. Not really a liquor man.

[zaggahamma]

I know that is what I should do. I am just in a funk right now. I had a horrible four days on Memorial Day weekend and I have not been able to get back on track solid since then. It all changes this week though.

i feel u bro....run into the same shiat...and i call it a funk too....u HAVE to keep those funks to a minimum.....do u miss the gym for week(s) at a time as well....i find that since i averaged 4 days a week in the gym all the funks get cancelled out cuz i stay focused on diet on gym days and its easier to control those funks on 3 days versus a whole week...
i keep a daily caloric journal (excel spreadsheet) that makes me accountable...no i dont weigh food and count grams and macros but i have a good idea of caloric content and make a reasonable guestimate that is prolly between 300 calories a day from being correct and thats close enough for me...

you have to decide what you want....you and you alone are responsible...you are know responsible to us as you have us rooting for you...your kids want you to be more energetic too bro....your not even middle aged so get your shit in order...dont be afraid to drink water with some wings on an extra night of football...if you dont make the changes then dont come on here cryin....i want this for you bro...not asking for you to eat eggwhites and chic breast all day long...just make a few cuts a day/week to the better....aight..nuff for now

[NOSUPERMODEL]

i feel u bro....run into the same shiat...and i call it a funk too....u HAVE to keep those funks to a minimum.....do u miss the gym for week(s) at a time as well....i find that since i averaged 4 days a week in the gym all the funks get cancelled out cuz i stay focused on diet on gym days and its easier to control those funks on 3 days versus a whole week...
i keep a daily caloric journal (excel spreadsheet) that makes me accountable...no i dont weigh food and count grams and macros but i have a good idea of caloric content and make a reasonable guestimate that is prolly between 300 calories a day from being correct and thats close enough for me...

you have to decide what you want....you and you alone are responsible...you are know responsible to us as you have us rooting for you...your kids want you to be more energetic too bro....your not even middle aged so get your shit in order...dont be afraid to drink water with some wings on an extra night of football...if you dont make the changes then dont come on here cryin....i want this for you bro...not asking for you to eat eggwhites and chic breast all day long...just make a few cuts a day/week to the better....aight..nuff for now

I did get back in the gym yesterday and plan on getting on a schedule. The bad thing is I got out of the habit of going and its hard to get back in. I also keep a food journal on Bodybugg. I actually weigh all of my food. My problems are the weekend. I do perfect Monday-Friday..eat right..no beer etc.., but the weekends I just lose it. Those 2 days can set me back big time. I am definately going to refocus myself and get back into things.

Thanks for shooting me straight.

Now about the blood work next Thursday....full panel again or should I only have him test certain things.

[zaggahamma]

I did get back in the gym yesterday and plan on getting on a schedule. The bad thing is I got out of the habit of going and its hard to get back in. I also keep a food journal on Bodybugg. I actually weigh all of my food. My problems are the weekend. I do perfect Monday-Friday..eat right..no beer etc.., but the weekends I just lose it. Those 2 days can set me back big time. I am definately going to refocus myself and get back into things.

Thanks for shooting me straight.

Now about the blood work next Thursday....full panel again or should I only have him test certain things.

we are counting on you...we got your pics a month or 2 ago...when can you promise us another couple pics...day before thanksgiving????? thats 4 months to make a lil progress....

[NOSUPERMODEL]

That sounds like a good idea. I should start a progress log. At least then I will be accountable. Pictures do not lie.

[NOSUPERMODEL]

Okay so can anyone tell me what to get tested? I really want to get everything leveled out to where they need to be. I know some of it is my personal choices as far as diet but I figured this long into it things would be better by now.

[NOSUPERMODEL]

Went back to the doc today to get blood work done. I told him that I thought we might have over done it on the AI(1 mg Monday, Wednesday, Friday) because I was feeling sluggish, the libido had dropped and I was more tired than before. He said okay lets get some blood work done. I also had a list of test that Gdevine said that I should get done. I simply wrote every test down on a piece of paper and said I have been doing some research and I see a lot of guys get this stuff tested. He took the list and simply wrote down everything I wanted tested. Hopefully I can get the results back tomorrow and post them up. So depending on what the blood work results show I will know that I need to be dosing somewhere between .25 mg EOD(what I started out at) and 1 mg Mon., Wed., Friday(which is what I was doing for the last 6 weeks). Can't wait to get all of the work back and see what it says and get you guys to help interpret the results.