Coming off a blast

[JD250]

Current protocol.....

200mgs test e5d........calculates to approximately 280mgs ew
150mgs deca e5d.......calculates to approximately 210mgs ew
250iu hcg eod
1mg anastrozol 3xw
1/2mg cabor 2xw

At this low dose the deca helped the joints noticeably and has gotten me a great start at the gym but I have had to take some cabor to keep the prolactin in check, my skin has gotten noticeably worse in the past couple weeks and it's been over 12 weeks on anyway so I'm gonna bring it back to normal and leave it alone for a while.

My thoughts on a protocol are this

100mgs test e5d........approx. 140mgs ew
250 iu HCG eod
1/2 mg anastrozol 3xw........to be adjusted if needed of course.
blood work in approx. 6 to 8 weeks....shortly after I donate blood.

Any input is valued.......one question I have is.....should I just switch everything to a normal protocol all at once or slowly?

[subnet]

very interested in this too JD as I've been doing a similar thing.

So... what dosing were you on before you started this blast - the 100mg e5d? I don't think there's any reason not to just go down to your new dosage rather than tapering, but maybe the guys that run more cycles have other ideas.

So it looks like your HCG is pretty good, but I'd be curious as to your numbers if you bumped your test amount up a bit? With only 140mg of test, would .5mg at 3x per week of AI be too much? I guess the biggest question is how did you feel before your blast and if it was positive, then just go back to that similar dose...

[zaggahamma]

transition looks good imo...

12 weeks on that lil blast huh...can you share any numbers/gains you got?

[kelkel]

Enlighten me please. What is this "skin thing" being referred to with deca ?

[zaggahamma]

Enlighten me please. What is this "skin thing" being referred to with deca?

they may be talking about acne, pimples

[flatscat]

Thats not really a blast bro. But your new doses look fine. It will be interesting to see if you feel any different without the deca and by lowering your ai (which was prolly too much anyway).

[JD250]

Yep, acne, small but noticeable basically oily skin.

JP
At that low dose I don't know how much of an anabolic effect it had (probably a little) but my rotator feels great as do my knees so I'm very happy with the collogen effect, As far as numbers go I will have to check my workout sheets and see what percentage of gains I made with the weights, as for the physical numbers I really don't know about BF% but my weight has stayed exactly the same while my strength in lifting and stamina for cardio seemed to go off the charts, I attribute that to the high dose of test (twice what it needs to be) however after 6 weeks of HARD work in the gym I felt wore out so I've taken a couple weeks off to recover and I feel great again, I suspect that the compounds gave me the ability to work a little harder than my old body could tolerate which is why I kept the dose low and tried to stay aware of FAST gains.

The scale may be the same but the mirror is getting a hell of a lot more friendly, kinda nice when the wife does a double take when you get out of the shower.

Next.......try and reduce my workout time by going from a 3 day split to a 4 day, I'm just over 2 hours right now including 20 min. cardio....too damn long, needs to be closer to an hour plus cardio, after that........get SERIOUS about the diet, not just a good diet but a GREAT diet....the last 12 pounds are gonna be a bitch.

[JD250]

Flats, just saw your post

Yea, thats a first timer, old guy blast

I struggled with the AI at first so I crept it up to that amount and that's where I seemed to feel really good.

I hope I feel OK without the deca , being able to workout without the nagging joint pain has allowed me to gain some strength a little quicker and my body composition has changed and I'm sure will continue to do so......we'll see in a few weeks how it goes.

If I can get the diet down to a science and lose some more BF I might shoot for a T only blast in mid winter.

[Sicko]

Current protocol.....

200mgs test e5d........calculates to approximately 280mgs ew
150mgs deca e5d.......calculates to approximately 210mgs ew
250iu hcg eod
1mg anastrozol 3xw
1/2mg cabor 2xw

At this low dose the deca helped the joints noticeably and has gotten me a great start at the gym but I have had to take some cabor to keep the prolactin in check, my skin has gotten noticeably worse in the past couple weeks and it's been over 12 weeks on anyway so I'm gonna bring it back to normal and leave it alone for a while.

My thoughts on a protocol are this

100mgs test e5d........approx. 140mgs ew
250 iu HCG eod
1/2 mg anastrozol 3xw........to be adjusted if needed of course.
blood work in approx. 6 to 8 weeks....shortly after I donate blood.

Any input is valued.......one question I have is.....should I just switch everything to a normal protocol all at once or slowly?

That doesnt seem to be much of a blast..
Is your trt self prescribed or from a clinic?
I am only asking because my doc has me on tes 200mg ew with a option of 100mg deca if I wanted. It doesnt seem like that was enough of a increase to really benifit from. Do you stay on HCG eod always or just after a blast?

[JD250]

Yea the word "blast" has thrown everyone off.........my clinic prescribes 400 test a week with 300 deca a week........do you think that protocol would put me in the "normal" ranges on my blood test? Maybe not a blast as you seasoned veterans look at it but more than normal was enough for me on this round, and it worked fine. Sorry for the poor choice of words.

I normally take HCG 250iu eod ALL the time.

Deca & test combined at those levels have a collagen synthesis effect, and my joints will back up that claim.

[zaggahamma]

thats really good to hear bro...sounds like you went about this all about the right way and got out of it all you wanted and should...makes me want to get on the deca again too....

great post/thread

thanks for it

[flatscat]

I miss my deca . Good luck JD. Lets us know.

[NOSUPERMODEL]

Yea the word "blast" has thrown everyone off.........my clinic prescribes 400 test a week with 300 deca a week........do you think that protocol would put me in the "normal" ranges on my blood test? Maybe not a blast as you seasoned veterans look at it but more than normal was enough for me on this round, and it worked fine. Sorry for the poor choice of words.

I normally take HCG 250iu eod ALL the time.

Deca & test combined at those levels have a collagen synthesis effect, and my joints will back up that claim.

They prescribe you Deca ? Did you ask about it or did they suggest it to you?

[Sicko]

Yea the word "blast" has thrown everyone off.........my clinic prescribes 400 test a week with 300 deca a week........do you think that protocol would put me in the "normal" ranges on my blood test? Maybe not a blast as you seasoned veterans look at it but more than normal was enough for me on this round, and it worked fine. Sorry for the poor choice of words.

I normally take HCG 250iu eod ALL the time.

Deca & test combined at those levels have a collagen synthesis effect, and my joints will back up that claim.

Daaamm.. brutha!!! that is a legit cycle...That amount will keep you in the 1500 plus ranges and then some...Seriously am I reading that right? your clinic prescribes 400mg of tes per week? and 300mg deca per week? that is like being on a cycle 365 days a year..kinda scary actually...

Kind of jealous of you fellas that got volume available to choose at what level to be at..I mean I am happy with the 200mg of tes has had on my life, but it would be pretty cool to have the excess on hand whenever I decided to do a blast...

[JD250]

excess is very pricey at a clinic and I'm old and wore out so I can only make use of so much that's why I keep the doses low, the only thing worse than getting old is getting old and being injured. But it is easy enough to have a little for a rainy day with that script.

[JD250]

Nosupermodel.......actually the way I got the deca is really weird, the "agent" for the clinic was at the bar one night eating BBQ wings and we were talking about getting a case of bud light and smoking a joint when a bottle of deca fell out of his briefcase and rolled across the table, I offered to buy the beer and the joint in exchange for the deca and a hooker so I guess you could say it was a mutual agreement. Now I get a bottle of 300mg deca every 10 weeks and a cute little mexican gal named Rosarita delivers it. I have a great clinic!!

[zaggahamma]

nosupermodel.......actually the way i got the deca is really weird, the "agent" for the clinic was at the bar one night eating bbq wings and we were talking about getting a case of bud light and smoking a joint when a bottle of deca fell out of his briefcase and rolled across the table, i offered to buy the beer and the joint in exchange for the deca and a hooker so i guess you could say it was a mutual agreement. Now i get a bottle of 300mg deca every 10 weeks and a cute little mexican gal named rosarita delivers it. I have a great clinic!!

lmao

[flatscat]

Nosupermodel.......actually the way I got the deca is really weird, the "agent" for the clinic was at the bar one night eating BBQ wings and we were talking about getting a case of bud light and smoking a joint when a bottle of deca fell out of his briefcase and rolled across the table, I offered to buy the beer and the joint in exchange for the deca and a hooker so I guess you could say it was a mutual agreement. Now I get a bottle of 300mg deca every 10 weeks and a cute little mexican gal named Rosarita delivers it. I have a great clinic!!

A reply of epic proportions... Nice one JD...