Some help with these labs

**Johnny Sinn** · 09-15-2011, 07:16 PM

Im going to post my labs and ref ranges. Still feeling tired and concentration feels off. LMK what you guys think

Also on TRT at time of this test at 125mg week cypionate , 250iu of hcg 3x per week, ghrp at 100mcg at bedtime

LH- 0.1 1.7 - 8.6 mIU/mL
FSH- 0.2 1.5 - 12.4
TSH 1.41 .03 - 3.7 UIU/ml

Testosterone 617 249 - 843 ng/dl
estradiol 18.6. 7.6 - 42.6 pg/ml
IGF-1 257 115-307 ng/dl
Free Test 16.2 8.7 - 25.1 pg/ml
T4 9.9 4.5-12.1 UG/DL

**zaggahamma** · 09-15-2011, 07:19 PM

t4 looks super high

**Johnny Sinn** · 09-15-2011, 08:09 PM

Also forgot anastrozle at .5 on inject days

**Johnny Sinn** · 09-15-2011, 09:29 PM

Super high? Best way to lower without meds. I'm irritable as hell lately. Tired all the time

**zaggahamma** · 09-15-2011, 10:30 PM

Originally Posted by Johnny Sinn

Super high? Best way to lower without meds. I'm irritable as hell lately. Tired all the time

from what i've read on these boards thyroid numbers are better on the lower side of normal...not sure...i'm sure more will chime in..
doc didnt mention it or anything else? have opinion on your symptoms?

**Johnny Sinn** · 09-15-2011, 11:27 PM

I haven't been back in yet. Just picked up my labs to look over them today. I'm thinking there is a thyroid issue. It's funny cause thyroid issues. Test issues. E2 issues. They all have the same symptoms. Lol. But my test and e2 are great. Something with the thyroid. I'm tired non stop no matter how much I sleep. Irritable as hell. Like ridiculous. Moody. In focused. And it's gotten much worse in the past 2 months or so

**Mr Bill** · 09-16-2011, 04:01 AM

When I first started with problems the doc put me on thyroid meds first to see if my high lab numbers were the issue. He told me that thyroid problems can make you feel the same as having low test. Then after acouple of weeks with no improvement he put me on the test. I feel good now. Maybe you have issues with both low test and low thyroid?

**NOSUPERMODEL** · 09-16-2011, 05:27 AM

I have always wondered about my thyroid.

**GotNoBlueMilk** · 09-16-2011, 05:48 AM

Originally Posted by jpkman

t4 looks super high

I know nothing about thyroid stuff, but his number is in range. It is just a tad bit above the mid-point. Why do you consider it super high? Is the range bogus and we need this value low?

**GotNoBlueMilk** · 09-16-2011, 05:51 AM

If your tiredness isn't thyroid related, then I would think the problem is outside of these hormones. Possibly a nutitional element lacking, you just don't sleep well, unknown apnea, etc.

**zaggahamma** · 09-16-2011, 09:25 AM

as i look back i guess the numbers were so damn close together i didnt notice that the low range was 4. something and yes its just past halfway....saying super was prolly dramatic as well...still worth looking into?

was hoping more ppl with thyroid knowledge/those on thy meds would chime...i do remember reading wanting the number lower for well being, etc.