Finally seeing a endo

**devildog1967** · 11-12-2011, 03:37 AM

I have a appointment at last with a endo next thursday. My doc knows i self medicate . My question is !! would it be best too leave all shots of test out until iv seen him? (last shot was last Tuesday @ 75mg with .5 Dex)

**wmaousley** · 11-12-2011, 04:58 AM

I would stop all injections. Maybe he will want to run some tests and if your blood work comes back high for test, he/she may not prescribe it to you

**zaggahamma** · 11-12-2011, 09:03 AM

i would call the endo/office and ask straight up...will i be doing blood/labs with this visit?

end of worry

**zaggahamma** · 11-12-2011, 09:04 AM

if not and he wants labs drawn elsewhere for him to read later you can take that any fvcking time you want

**FONZY007** · 11-12-2011, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by jpkman

i would call the endo/office and ask straight up...will i be doing blood/labs with this visit?

end of worry

Most likely you will be doing blood work, mine makes me do blood work every 3 months

**devildog1967** · 11-12-2011, 09:31 AM

never had blood work done by a endo before .. i did force my doc too do some while im self medicating...Even had to force them to let me see a endo 4 docs later .

**kelkel** · 11-12-2011, 11:27 AM

i'd go in a be direct and honest with him. You need to build a trust factor with your doc and put your heads together to find what works for you as an individual. Get the BW without altering what your currently doing so you learn exactly where your at. my .02

**bigboy67** · 11-12-2011, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by kelkel

i'd go in a be direct and honest with him. You need to build a trust factor with your doc and put your heads together to find what works for you as an individual. Get the BW without altering what your currently doing so you learn exactly where your at. my .02

x2 I would call and ask to speak with him, explain the situation in short form, and ask his preference if he would like you to continue self medicating, or stop before the appt.

Shouldnt be a huge issue

**bass** · 11-12-2011, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

i'd go in a be direct and honest with him. You need to build a trust factor with your doc and put your heads together to find what works for you as an individual. Get the BW without altering what your currently doing so you learn exactly where your at. my .02

x3. he already knows you're self medicating so he is expecting to see your test level in the normal rage or higher. and like Kel said, be honest with him so he can treat you properly. i just hope he's up to date with HRT!

**zaggahamma** · 11-12-2011, 02:10 PM

sorry minus 3

my .02

**fit2bOld** · 11-12-2011, 02:33 PM

Bigger question is while your self medicating are/were you getting bloodwork to validate what your taking and does it translate into acceptable ranges.?
Sucks hearing of all the problems guys have just trying to feel better. My original female GP told me I was fine and to drink Vitamin water, never did a full hormone panel.

**devildog1967** · 11-12-2011, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by fit2bOld

Bigger question is while your self medicating are/were you getting bloodwork to validate what your taking and does it translate into acceptable ranges.?
Sucks hearing of all the problems guys have just trying to feel better. My original female GP told me I was fine and to drink Vitamin water, never did a full hormone panel.

With self medicating bloods came back very good apart from E2 .. Which now i take 1mg of dex a week... So im doing something right without doctors.. But trying to get doc and endo to work with me on this. And being very honest with them

**fit2bOld** · 11-12-2011, 05:08 PM

There's your answer be upfront with what your doing. Find a DR. that will work with you and is willing to do the research. I found a young Dr. that goes to the gym and does the research. You should never be refused blood work or a conversation as to why or why not, its our health and we need to be very assertive.

**bass** · 11-12-2011, 09:45 PM

Originally Posted by fit2bOld

There's your answer be upfront with what your doing. Find a DR. that will work with you and is willing to do the research. I found a young Dr. that goes to the gym and does the research. You should never be refused blood work or a conversation as to why or why not, its our health and we need to be very assertive.

more magic words!

**devildog1967** · 11-17-2011, 01:12 AM

today's the day i see a endo, Iv kept up my self medicating so that i give them no bull and honest straight down the line.

**xelnaga** · 11-17-2011, 01:14 AM

Originally Posted by devildog1967

today's the day i see a endo, Iv kept up my self medicating so that i give them no bull and honest straight down the line.

Please update us when you get a chance! Thanks!

**devildog1967** · 11-17-2011, 12:58 PM

Well endo said NO..lol he said my old test of 15 free T was ok for my age .. my new tests where 33 free on 100mg a week . So im saying that i done the honest thing by keeping on my self med , only to be told "we are not helping you even tho all symptoms have gone and you feel good".What a waste of 2h ..lol

**xelnaga** · 11-17-2011, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by devildog1967

Well endo said NO..lol he said my old test of 15 free T was ok for my age .. my new tests where 33 free on 100mg a week . So im saying that i done the honest thing by keeping on my self med , only to be told "we are not helping you even tho all symptoms have gone and you feel good".What a waste of 2h ..lol

What complete crap.

**bigboy67** · 11-17-2011, 01:13 PM

wow, what a joke. I don't advocate self medicating just because I like to have doc supervision and blood tests, but dang, looks like you don't have any other choice?

**xelnaga** · 11-17-2011, 01:19 PM

@devil- bro I hope you tried to hide those traps

**zaggahamma** · 11-17-2011, 01:28 PM

whats the use of doc supervision when the doc is a dope

bloodtests available without quacks thank goodness

**zaggahamma** · 11-17-2011, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by xelnaga

@devil- bro I hope you tried to hide those traps

good point

**bigboy67** · 11-17-2011, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by jpkman

whats the use of doc supervision when the doc is a dope

bloodtests available without quacks thank goodness

I thought Devildog was in a country where you have to get bloods done at a doc?

**bass** · 11-17-2011, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by devildog1967

Well endo said NO..lol he said my old test of 15 free T was ok for my age .. my new tests where 33 free on 100mg a week . So im saying that i done the honest thing by keeping on my self med , only to be told "we are not helping you even tho all symptoms have gone and you feel good".What a waste of 2h ..lol

shame on them! do what you have to dude and keep trying to find a doc that is willing to help.

**devildog1967** · 11-17-2011, 01:50 PM

But as we all know TRT is for life and i will soon be at the point of no return .. Sick of banging my head against a wall . Anyone would think im a heroin addict. Oh no sorry scum like that get helped..lol

**bass** · 11-17-2011, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by devildog1967

But as we all know TRT is for life and i will soon be at the point of no return .. Sick of banging my head against a wall . Anyone would think im a heroin addict. Oh no sorry scum like that get helped..lol

LOL, thats what my wife thinks!

**zaggahamma** · 11-17-2011, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by bigboy67

I thought Devildog was in a country where you have to get bloods done at a doc?

maybe so guess that would suck double

**fit2bOld** · 11-17-2011, 05:38 PM

Must have been the Traps, keep looking for a Dr. or if not hook up with a good clinic. I actually started at a clinic and moved to a DR. cost a whole lot less and my crappy a$$ insurance actually pays a bit for the blood work and test is cheaper at Walmart. The Doc had no problem continuing the protocol the clinic started just wanted to see blood work/records which I keep a file of everything HRT.

**kelkel** · 11-17-2011, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by devildog1967

But as we all know TRT is for life and i will soon be at the point of no return .. Sick of banging my head against a wall . Anyone would think im a heroin addict. Oh no sorry scum like that get helped..lol

They get helped free too. WTF!

Good luck DD!

**devildog1967** · 11-18-2011, 12:56 AM

I must add .. i said about my E2 being sky high before i took a self medicated AI which they seen my level at aprox 327 , And they also said thats not a problem also i said about my nut size and they measured and they where 15mm but again they said there normal..lol..

I tried to educate them about HCG but fell on deaf ears. At the end of the day they just bleated on about the harm i can do while self medicating when i dont need it.

Sex drive ..hmmm I told them my drive was great while i was on test, They said dont worry about your drive going as its a age thing and evolution dictates that humans dont need to produce anymore children at a older age.. So guys when you reach 44 dont worry about anything as its just nature .. Just sit back in your rocking chairs and wait for god to come and collect your empty shells ..lol

**devildog1967** · 11-18-2011, 12:58 AM

They did say one thing that made me laugh !!! they said with 100mg a week of test will produce a lot of muscle .. Felt like saying to the skinny endo "perhaps you better start taking some"

**SEOINAGE** · 11-18-2011, 07:14 AM

Sounds like a fail doctor. I hope my endo sets me up right, my gyno is already bad and never done a cycle.

**devildog1967** · 11-19-2011, 01:58 PM

UPDATE

Had a call from the endo !! They said they dont approve of me self medicating my TRT but are writing to my doctor to allow me the blood tests as and when i need them (ALL THE MAIN TESTS ).. They said even tho i have all the symptoms of low T they just cant justify prescribing me TRT as my normal levels are within the normal range for someone in my age group.. So its a good result in one way .