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    WerewolfBaby is offline New Member
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    PLEASE HELP! I really need advise and responses.

    Please please help. I am 34 1/2 former MMA athlete in LA now, diagnosed with Lupus and Sjorgen's two years ago so have horrible fatigue/pain. No matter how much I trained martial arts my entire life I always had a big belly which should be noted, so maybe always had high Estrogen conversion? I am 5'10 3/4" 227 lbs Big muscular arms and quads but huge belly.

    My TT was low 300 then 512 about a 1/2 ago by an Endo.

    I did a 9 week cycle of Sust 250mg or 500 mg actually not positive now+Deca 300 mg each week this summer because desperate for energy but should have never messed with Deca. I only did 10 pills of Nolvadex and should have done more. I did feel much better on cycle, after taking shot once per week I would be great for two days, and was able to lift a little and train MMA/Grappling much better. I either did too much deca to test ratio, or too much gear overall for a noob without enough PCT correct? Damn

    Now I am messed up and no one is getting back to me on the boards. I am Very fatigued, feeling worse then ever, and my Libido went from over active to complete Shit. Damn me for ever messing with Deca. I think I conservatively need an AI to lower my E2 but worried about messing Libido up more.

    1 Antiaging clinic I went to just in it for the money and their labs were lacking.

    I don't know to HRT myself now, or spend a lot with BodyLogicMD or what. Have low libido now, but thinking of getting some liquidex and doing .5 twice per week myself to lower my E2 anyway, or even if I go to BodyLogic because will be 2-5 weeks before I get my consult there.

    My TT is 202-385 depending on what Range use
    Free Test 9.62 in 1.9-27 range
    DHEA is super low 165 in 160-449 range so thinking about buying OTC DHEA? Should I?
    Estradiol is 51.4 high in 7.6-42.6 range so this is my main concern first I would think
    MY LH was not tested which seems messed up
    Cortisol morning blood test was normal 15.8 don't know the range. BodyLogic said Saliva test is needed.
    My Kidney and Liver Enzymes, and CBC are fine btw

    Also should be noted my Pregnenolone is super high 648 in a 38-350 range but Little seems to be known about that.

    Should I------A. Spend the $1000 go to BodyLogicMD and possibly while I wait AI myself conservatively with .5 Liquidex 2/week? It would be 2-5 weeks before my consult.

    B. AI myself then put myself on some sort of HCG recovery program try and get my own Testes working again? (500 iu 2/week?) I also have thirty Novlvadex pills sitting here but not sure if they will help.

    Or C. decide to HRT for life myself after 3 weeks of doing AI/Liquidex....doing 125 mg TEST C per week, 500 iu HCG per week (until I am 40), and possibly OTC DHEA? Can I safely do this without having my LH Tested?

    I bought Zinc Picolanate to take 50 mg twice per day for a week then will do once per day, plus my multi vitamin/mineral. DHEA has been good in Woman lupus studies, but I was conscerned about extra estrogen from it?

    What should I do?
    Last edited by WerewolfBaby; 11-21-2011 at 06:20 PM.

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    GotNoBlueMilk is offline Knowledgeable Member
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    If you go to a HRT clinic you are going to get prescribed HRT. If that is what you want then a clinic is fine. If you want to get healthy w/o going on TRT then try an endo or something first. Why not work first with your doc who is treating you for your diseases? You have many issues going on, with Lupus, etc. Jumping on TRT w/o fully understanding all the med interactions and everything is not good. Maybe high Testosterone is bad for Lupus and Sjorgen's disease. I don't know, do you?

    High prenenolone is an issue. What is causing that? Are you on any meds for the Lupus or Sjorgen's?
    Test is low but that can also be due to meds or directly related to the Lupus and Sjorgen's disease. Major issues usually raise cortisol and take testosterone from your body to fight off the disease.
    Yes, E2 is high but again why? You have super low T so E2 should be low too. What is your body fat%? Are your meds and the diseases raising that? Is it wise to take an AI with your diseases and any meds you are taking?

    You really need to work with a doctor on this. You don't have low T from getting old, etc. You have some major issues that all have to be considered.

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    WerewolfBaby is offline New Member
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    My Cortisol was supposedly in Range but I don't know what end of the range. I would expect it to be high from inflammation overall though but that is just my guess. My Rhaumotoligist doesn't understand any of this. HRT has been used effectively to fight off fatigue caused by Auto Immune diseases.

    I do believe my Test is low simply from my age and perhaps aging quicker than normal do to the lupus, plus a bit low from very slight dabbling over the years a few times with various steroids but not anywhere near a full cycle until this past summer.

    Now the Test would be low and My Estrogen high from what I did this summer with too short of PCT correct? My bodyfat pretty much same as usual, though when I first got really sick 2 yrs ago my weight went from 218 to 228 over night. Since then 227-234 is my normal, was 237 this summer on cycle.

    I am on Plaquenol and a bit of Flexeril and Tramadol, nothing that would effect my numbers to my knowledge.

    The Pregnenolone I do not understand yet. Various protocals say to supplement it actually but I am very high. High is said to have Anti-inflammotory properties though, so maybe it is helping or maybe my body is doing something good. Or does Pregnenolone go high from doing a cycle like I did???

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