Trt is good but !!

**devildog1967** · 12-07-2011, 03:17 AM

TRT is a wonderful thing as it did changes life for the good, But i have finally found out that self medicating is one BIG gamble . As you all know i have been self medicating TRT for approx six months and all has been good. But over the last 2-3 weeks it has gone down hill and the reason for that is i got some BUNK gear , Iv now started PCT to get my body back to normal and see where i am from there . I will not self medicate again.

So all im saying is be careful out there

**yannick35** · 12-07-2011, 03:31 AM

When i did my steroid cycle back in 1998 i got some bunk steroids too, winstrol V and deca where fake for sure. This is why i swore never to use steroids again. And a big surprise when my medical doctor put me on TRT.

Why are you self medicating? do you really have low T or you just decided to supplement your training with low dosage of testosterone ? You might want to try and find a good medical doctor that would give you a good prescription for testosterone enhantate.

I would never ever get my steroids on the black market or unknown source again. Plus buying from them cost 4-5 times more. I remember paying 150$ for 5ML of testosterone enthantate when i was doing my steroid cycle 14 years ago, what a joke with my presc and insurance coverage i get the same amount 5ml for 9$ and i know its real.

**devildog1967** · 12-07-2011, 03:45 AM

self medicating because all symptoms of low T but above uk guidelines so docs would not prescribe but would do my blood work every 6 months. They agree it works for me but cant prescribe.

I dont believe in AAS for training so that was not the issue .

**BigIce** · 12-07-2011, 03:57 AM

Now is the time to revisit the doc and get bloodwork done if you wish to on TRT

But if you can get your self back on track with PCT it is much better.

Yes TRT is good, but only if YOU NEED IT !

**devildog1967** · 12-07-2011, 04:15 AM

Originally Posted by BigIce

Now is the time to revisit the doc and get bloodwork done if you wish to on TRT

But if you can get your self back on track with PCT it is much better.

Yes TRT is good, but only if YOU NEED IT !

TRT should not just go on the number games. thats like saying that people can live on minimum wage without handouts

**flatscat** · 12-07-2011, 07:55 AM

Originally Posted by devildog1967

TRT should not just go on the number games. thats like saying that people can live on minimum wage without handouts

I agree, but if you are coming off your b/w will almost certainly "qualify" you based on the numbers alone in three to four weeks.

**bullshark99** · 12-07-2011, 09:14 AM

DDog, sorry about your predicament, hesitant to even say this because you already know but buying black market is no different than buying H from the crack junkie on the corner, never know what your getting. Anyway, on a positive note, I agree with flatscat, now would be the time to go to the Doc get BW done as Im sure your levels will put you in the qualification zone for your location.

**BigIce** · 12-07-2011, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by devildog1967

TRT should not just go on the number games. thats like saying that people can live on minimum wage without handouts

But that is exactly what I meant. You are without a doubt completely shut down now so your numbers should be with in the guidelines.

I did in no way mean that being within some guidelines is good enough if you feel like crap.

My point was that if PCT can get you to the point where you feel fine then that is better than being on TRT.

**bass** · 12-07-2011, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by devildog1967

TRT is a wonderful thing as it did changes life for the good, But i have finally found out that self medicating is one BIG gamble . As you all know i have been self medicating TRT for approx six months and all has been good. But over the last 2-3 weeks it has gone down hill and the reason for that is i got some BUNK gear , Iv now started PCT to get my body back to normal and see where i am from there . I will not self medicate again.

So all im saying is be careful out there

sorry it had to come down to this DD. i agree with the guys regarding visiting your doctors. to be honest i don't think PCT will do you any good at this point, but give it a try then go from there... best of luck to you and please keep us posted.

**Brohim** · 12-07-2011, 12:07 PM

true if you go off now you will qualify. Tell the doc you want some Nebidio

**bigboy67** · 12-07-2011, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by BigIce

But that is exactly what I meant. You are without a doubt completely shut down now so your numbers should be with in the guidelines.

I did in no way mean that being within some guidelines is good enough if you feel like crap.

My point was that if PCT can get you to the point where you feel fine then that is better than being on TRT.

yeah, thats not really true. you may feel good for a little while, but you WILL go back to feeling like crap again. PCT does not last, TRT does. He already knows how he feels withour TRT, why would he go back to that?

DDog, get two weeks after your last good injection under your belt and go get those blood tests done.

**BigIce** · 12-07-2011, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by bigboy67

yeah, thats not really true. you may feel good for a little while, but you WILL go back to feeling like crap again. PCT does not last, TRT does. He already knows how he feels withour TRT, why would he go back to that?

Yeah that may be true, and if he does feel like crap without TRT, TRT is the only way.

And hopefully Nebido will be available for US patients soon as it is doing wonders for us using it.