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    DHT - Agel Issue

    Men,

    Been on agel about a year or so now and doing well as the regulars here know. My PCP ignored E as did Endo. Now with Euro who's with it. I see him next week. All testing done 24 hrs after application of 6 pumps 1.62%. Here's the issue:

    BW 9/13/11 Labcorp

    Bio T w/o SHGB: 699
    Bio T, S: 364 range 95-285
    Bio T %: 52.1
    T serum: 712
    Free T: 17.3 range 7.2 - 24.0
    E Sensitive: < 3 range 3-70 WTF

    No baseline E done with prior docs (begged to no avail) and was on 1.5mg adex prior to above test. Happy with results except for E, obviously.

    So............

    Reduced adex to .25 x 3 per week

    BW 11/29/11 Labcorp

    Bio T w/o SHGB: 511
    Bio T, S: 235
    Bio T%: 45.9
    T Serum: 485
    Free T: 8.7
    E Sensitive: 5 (again, WTF)
    DHT: 131 ng/dl, range 30-85

    I requested a DHT level with the above to see if it was high and playing a part in my E suppression. Here is a good read on DHT for those not familiar. http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/reform8.htm. After reading that link I'll add I've got a full head of hair and that really is a third leg.

    So, we know that agel can contribute to a DHT level increase but I'm also wondering if I'm just naturally high in that area. But without a pre-agel BW I can't really know for sure. After discussions with GD the thinking is that reducing the AI probably led to increased aromatization, therefore lower T levels. Or is it just a fluke and other environmental / physiological factors played a part in the lowered T levels on that day in my so called life.

    When it comes to the abnormally low E level and sides, I don't really think I suffer from any. I've got a little pain in one knee and an elbow but I beat myself to death and still train very heavy so that's not abnormal for me. Everything else stands up when requested.

    GD and I have a course of action but I would like to hear from you guys if you have the time.

    Thanks in advance!
    Last edited by kelkel; 12-07-2011 at 07:30 PM.

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