Blasting and cruising

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first let me say i know its gonna be awhile (6 months to year or longer) before i get dialed in and all that stuff.. i may find that now that i have enuff test in me for a change ill be happy with how i look based on that only but maybe ill want to get a little bigger..

what im wondering is if any of yall have done it and what kind of success have u had??

were u able to keep ur gains?

how much extra muscle were u able to add??

and also i suppose i have to ask if there are any risks/complications involved once u go back to ur trt dose??

also what about adding other compounds(winstrol ,tren ,var,etc..) and are there potential probs there??

i know this is in part an AAS forum question but im asking it in relation to TRT...

[JohnnyVegas]

It is easier to keep gains while on TRT because you don't need to go though the PCT process. You just go back to your TRT dose. That is assuming you keep your diet right to keep the new muscle.

Without being specific about what I have been doing, I can tell you I put on around 30 pounds of muscle this year and lost around 40 pounds of fat. I am working hard to finish up the year strong. I cannot wait to see what my final numbers are. I have worked my *ss off.

Risks and complications come more during the blast than the TRT. They are the usual risks you read about. Us older guys (I forget your age) need to keep an eye on BP.

Adding compounds should be added over time. I would think a first blast should be treated exactly like anyone's standard first cycle...Test only, 400mg-600mg/week.

You are doing the right thing by asking in the AAS section. Blasting is nothing but a cycle. There are a lot of guys that are blasting and cruising because of the effect cycles have had on their system - they aren't all old guys that have just naturally shut down.

[txnhb]

forgive my ignorance...what is blasting and cruising? is this someone who adds to their trt with bodybuilder like cycles while on trt? then goes back to regular trt protocol?

[BigBadWolf]

forgive my ignorance...what is blasting and cruising? is this someone who adds to their trt with bodybuilder like cycles while on trt? then goes back to regular trt protocol?

Yep.

[JohnnyVegas]

^^^^^ Exactly. I think "blast and cruise" is more what the BB guys call it who are not on medical TRT.

[bass]

It is easier to keep gains while on TRT because you don't need to go though the PCT process. You just go back to your TRT dose. That is assuming you keep your diet right to keep the new muscle.

Without being specific about what I have been doing, I can tell you I put on around 30 pounds of muscle this year and lost around 40 pounds of fat. I am working hard to finish up the year strong. I cannot wait to see what my final numbers are. I have worked my *ss off.

Risks and complications come more during the blast than the TRT. They are the usual risks you read about. Us older guys (I forget your age) need to keep an eye on BP.

Adding compounds should be added over time. I would think a first blast should be treated exactly like anyone's standard first cycle...Test only, 400mg-600mg/week.

You are doing the right thing by asking in the AAS section. Blasting is nothing but a cycle. There are a lot of guys that are blasting and cruising because of the effect cycles have had on their system - they aren't all old guys that have just naturally shut down.

well said JV!

my last blast was 300/300 test/deca , i don't think it made much difference, i could have accomplished what i did during the blast with 200 mgs a week test only. i just came of var and still putting on weight! i think blasting for over 50 guys should be done with caution! 405, i know you are younger than 50!

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yeh bass im 37

i posted in my other thread asking what the worst thing that could happen if u dont aspirate and/or do aspirate but no blood comes out but yet ur in a vein or bloodvessel.. what im wondering is what does aspiration try to prevent occurring ... ??? worse case scenario??

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someone told me it happend to u (bass)??

[txnhb]

yeh bass im 37

i posted in my other thread asking what the worst thing that could happen if u dont aspirate and/or do aspirate but no blood comes out but yet ur in a vein or bloodvessel.. what im wondering is what does aspiration try to prevent occurring ... ??? worse case scenario??

while im not the leading expert on steroids , i was a navy corpsman and if you don't aspirate and you are in a blood vessel worse case scenario would be death. it's an IM medication and was never meant to go directly through a blood vessel. blood vessels are veins, arteries, and capillaries i think ur thinking they are different.

[bass]

it was very light nick to the vein, i coughed for few seconds and felt like i was going to faint, but only lasted 10-15 seconds, however someone else posted when he injected directly into the vein accidentally he immediately fell on the floor coughing his guts out and drooling coming out of his nose and mouth for about 5 minutes or so!!! LOL! but i also heard it can cause serious issues. not sure what they are!

[JohnnyVegas]

yeh bass im 37

i posted in my other thread asking what the worst thing that could happen if u dont aspirate and/or do aspirate but no blood comes out but yet ur in a vein or bloodvessel.. what im wondering is what does aspiration try to prevent occurring ... ??? worse case scenario??

You could end up in a vein if you don't aspirate . But, sometimes you aspirate, everything is fine, and you still end up with gear in your blood. You will taste it, then you will start coughing. The coughing can be rough, but it is just the oil (from the gear) getting to the lungs and being deposited for clearing out of the system (by coughing).

Aspirating keeps you from mainlining gear, which is bad.

This is rarely a problem. Just be cautious. Eventually you will get the cough, or you will get a bleeder when you pull the needle out. Don't freak if either of those things happen.

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You could end up in a vein if you don't aspirate . But, sometimes you aspirate, everything is fine, and you still end up with gear in your blood. You will taste it, then you will start coughing. The coughing can be rough, but it is just the oil (from the gear) getting to the lungs and being deposited for clearing out of the system (by coughing).

Aspirating keeps you from mainlining gear, which is bad.

This is rarely a problem. Just be cautious. Eventually you will get the cough, or you will get a bleeder when you pull the needle out. Don't freak if either of those things happen.

neither one of these sound very good.. what about what the other guy said about death?? maybe i should look it up and see what it says..

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it was very light nick to the vein, i coughed for few seconds and felt like i was going to faint, but only lasted 10-15 seconds, however someone else posted when he injected directly into the vein accidentally he immediately fell on the floor coughing his guts out and drooling coming out of his nose and mouth for about 5 minutes or so!!! LOL! but i also heard it can cause serious issues. not sure what they are!

maybe we oughta find out??

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Pulmonary embolism
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Pulmonary embolism
Classification and external resources

Pulmonary embolism (PE) is a blockage of the main artery of the lung or one of its branches by a substance that has travelled from elsewhere in the body through the bloodstream (embolism). Usually this is due to embolism of a thrombus (blood clot) from the deep veins in the legs, a process termed venous thromboembolism. A small proportion is due to the embolization of air, fat, talc in drugs of intravenous drug abusers or amniotic fluid. The obstruction of the blood flow through the lungs and the resultant pressure on the right ventricle of the heart leads to the symptoms and signs of PE. The risk of PE is increased in various situations, such as cancer or prolonged bed rest.[1]
Symptoms of pulmonary embolism include difficulty breathing, chest pain on inspiration, and palpitations. Clinical signs include low blood oxygen saturation and cyanosis, rapid breathing, and a rapid heart rate. Severe cases of PE can lead to collapse, abnormally low blood pressure, and sudden death.[1]

doesnt sound very good...not sure how possible this is but doesnt sound good nonetheless..

[txnhb]

well it sounds like the coughing and feeling faint are because since it is an IM injection that went straight IV your body is trying to quickly trying to compensate for the sudden influx of foreign material. IM injections are meant to be slowly absorbed. I would suspect that anaphylactic shock could occur and the worst case scenario would be death, possibly a heart attack.

[txnhb]

it's pretty hard to do that though if you know your land marks, i've probably given over 3,000 IM shots to marines and never hit a vessel.

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yeh i watchd the video bass sent me.. seems pretty clear cut... ive got the butt cheek and quad down.. only thing left is the delt.. also think my new doc is putting me on 30g 1/2" strait into quad..and some hip area.. <<---------anyone know bout this one??

[bass]

guys, how many times have you heard people die from improper injections?! not common, don't worry about it too much, and if you do worry then simply switch to SQ