Need help with weight lifting and my TRT

[Black]

stay away from squats, i been crippled for 6 weeks and still can't do shit because of it. never again!

So from this post it sounds as though you hurt yourself doing squats, does it not?

dude, you really need to stop trying to sound smart! first of all my injuries were not caused from lifting, i had two motorcycle crashes, one screwed up my shoulders and the other damaged my back. so i now repeat myself and make myself clear, for people like us with passed injuries and our age its not advisable to do squats. of course each to his own, i am only giving my advise based on my experience. BTW, if not all but most of professional bodybuilders have injured themselves at least once in their career, so please don't tell me i got injured because i don't know how to lift. enough said!

So, you injured your back and shoulder on a motorcycle. Where on the timeline did this happen? Before or after you hurt yourself squatting?

To me it sounds as though you had a motorcycle accident and that is when you first injured your back and shoulder. Then you hurt yourself doing squats 6 weeks ago. Therefore, you hurt yourself doing squats incorrectly. Did I miss something? Please correct me if I am wrong.

Please answer these questions. Can you perform a squat using only your bodyweight? Can you bend down and pick the smallest of things up off the floor?

Also, there is no need to insult me about "trying to sound smart". But since you want to bring up intelligence, I think the correct word in bold you were meaning to use above it "past", not "passed". Thanks buddy!

[yannick35]

Dante Diamond feel free to squat all you like, you seem to take this exercise at heart and think you cannot lift weights around it, then be it, bass got injured doing it, i got injured doing it 10 years ago.

Last year after getting tones of prolotherapy in the lower back i decided to add squats back in my training, nothing major has you say, started with 70 pounds, but the point of the matter is, the charge on the shoulder is still there even at that light weight.

This is my last reply concerning squats, like i said anyone wanting to do them then do them, if the movement is good for you, does not put pressure on your upper back and lower back, in the hips then do it.

If i ever to P90X again i know there is body weight squatting, i did a lot of those in kyokushin karate and think they are wonderful.

For now i can charge a lot more on the leg press and get big legs out of this.

To each is own guys to each is own, prevention first, injury free next, live a healthy life

[yannick35]

Bass touched a great point too saying we are getting older, this point right there is hard to admit, i am 39, and don't want to admit it that i am getting up there in age, that i might not be able to do what i did when i was 18.

[Black]

Dante Diamond feel free to squat all you like, you seem to take this exercise at heart and think you cannot lift weights around it, then be it, bass got injured doing it, i got injured doing it 10 years ago.

Last year after getting tones of prolotherapy in the lower back i decided to add squats back in my training, nothing major has you say, started with 70 pounds, but the point of the matter is, the charge on the shoulder is still there even at that light weight.

This is my last reply concerning squats, like i said anyone wanting to do them then do them, if the movement is good for you, does not put pressure on your upper back and lower back, in the hips then do it.

If i ever to P90X again i know there is body weight squatting, i did a lot of those in kyokushin karate and think they are wonderful.

For now i can charge a lot more on the leg press and get big legs out of this.

To each is own guys to each is own, prevention first, injury free next, live a healthy life

BOOM! Right there. That is what I was trying to say. Bodyweight squats. At no time in this entire thread did I ever say you had to squat weight. Do bodyweight squats. Then, after you build up strength there, grab a pair of 5lb dumbbells and keep squatting.

[Black]

Bass touched a great point too saying we are getting older, this point right there is hard to admit, i am 39, and don't want to admit it that i am getting up there in age, that i might not be able to do what i did when i was 18.

Damn dude, I hope you don't consider 39 "getting up there in age". You have a long ways to go until you can say that.

[yannick35]

Damn dude, I hope you don't consider 39 "getting up there in age". You have a long ways to go until you can say that.

Considering my current chronic back pain i feel a lot older then 39. But things are getting better and with TRT the next year should really be good.

[jamotech]

BOOM! Right there. That is what I was trying to say. Bodyweight squats. At no time in this entire thread did I ever say you had to squat weight. Do bodyweight squats. Then, after you build up strength there, grab a pair of 5lb dumbbells and keep squatting.

The thread is titled weight lifting and trt, not body weight and trt, correct?

[zaggahamma]

The thread is titled weight lifting and trt, not body weight and trt, correct?

"need help with weight lifting and my trt"
sticky?

[yannick35]

"need help with weight lifting and my trt"
sticky?

This is turning out to be a flaming contest, which should not be, everyone is entitled to there opinion in my view.

[zaggahamma]

slightly sarcastic not flaming

sorry yani

do forgive

[bass]

Considering my current chronic back pain i feel a lot older then 39. But things are getting better and with TRT the next year should really be good.

LOL! i'll give anything to be 39 again! Yannick, for legs i do leg press, leg extensions and light weight deads (for some reason deads don't bother me), lunges and leg curls. my legs are getting bigger and stronger, but my damn knees are the problem. yes getting old means we have lots of wear and tear on our joints and you we need to be careful what exercises we do to prevent injuries. here is something to think about. in the old days of Arnold and others, they didn't have all the technology we have today in terms of equipment, but they had something we still use today, SQUATS! now tell me how come in the old days bodybuilders including Arnold had pencil legs compare to today? today the legs are humongous! Why? the only thing i can think of is we have far more machines for legs than just doing squats, lunges and deads! my point is you can still get your legs to grow without squats. if you're healthy and young heck do all the squats you want, but at our age and goals, why risk it!

[Bill_boy2005]

Funny you say that Bass. My knees just kill me on the machines, but the free weight exercises seem to be a little easier on them. Not sure if its the fixed range of motion on the leg machines or what. Of course I watch my form closer when the weights sitting on my shoulders or hanging from my arms

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I've had people say leg extensions are horrible on the knees actually.

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and about the less machines in arnolds day, I really dunno if I believe that. they had leg press hack squats, a lot of the other things we have today, they also had machines you don't see anymore. Ok so the isolateral hammer strength machines weren't around. But I'm willing to bet the leg size difference is advan***ent in drugs, of course there were a few guys back then with big legs but that was thanks to genetics to a large degree.

[Black]

and about the less machines in arnolds day, I really dunno if I believe that. they had leg press hack squats, a lot of the other things we have today, they also had machines you don't see anymore. Ok so the isolateral hammer strength machines weren't around. But I'm willing to bet the leg size difference is advan***ent in drugs, of course there were a few guys back then with big legs but that was thanks to genetics to a large degree.

This is spot on Seoinage. Like you said, there aren't any new machines today that they didnt have back in 60s, 70s, 80s, etc that is the sole reason for such massive size differences in legs nowadays. It's all about advan***ents in drugs (growth, slin, etc) and training in general. And it's not just legs, overall these guys today dwarf bodybuilders of the past. And also, don't forget genetics. Tom Platz is a great example of a bodybuilder who had legs back then that could compete with today's standards.

[yannick35]

I have to agree with the boys here, steroids got a lot better now a days then back in the days, this is why not legs but bodybuilders are so much bigger today then back then. Still Arnold and the rest of the bunch of the 70 where great inspiration.

Has for me i rather look at guys like Tony Horton and Billy Blanks who are in there fifties and can still kick A$$, last night my girlfriend was getting on my nerve she wanted me to download the demo for the zumba game on xbox 360 kinect, i downloaded it and tried the game on easy for a 5 minute song, i could not even finish the song i was drained.

In the next few weeks i will be testing myself i am feeling better now, this fat a$$ blimp that is me (yes you heard it right even the camera on the kinect sees me has a fat a$$) is going on a serious weight loss program.

I am gonna try P90X and see how i can do it, yes there are body weight squats and i am going to do them too. I will use my pulldown machine since i don't have a chin up bar.

Side note never use masteron has an AI, the guy had good intention buts it was not enough to counter the estrogen conversion i got from 200mg of testosterone per week. No wonder i been feeling like crap for a while.

I just added letrozole last week and am taking it twice a week now at 2.5ML each time, tapering it down to 0.25ml next week and glad to report that i feel a lot better and i have lost some of the water retention that had been built up.

[jamotech]

This is turning out to be a flaming contest, which should not be, everyone is entitled to there opinion in my view.

Definitely not a flame bro, its rare to find that here.