Still feel like crap

[vere76]

09-15-2011, 35 years old and results?
Here are my results
T serum 455 348-836
free t 10 8.7-25.1

Im on 100mg 1 a week nothing else. .
Oct 27 2011
T serum 923 348-836
free t 28.2 8.7-25.1

Estradiol 70.9 7.6-42.6

1/13/12
T serum 894 348-1197
Free t waiting for results
LH .5 1.7-8.5
FSH 1.9 1.5 -12.4
Prolactin 5.7 4.0 -15.2
E2 18.2 7.5 - 42.7 Added 1mg ar-r liquidex and 250 3x week HCg
the last 2 weeks i feel like crap. the doc says all is fine.any help would be nice.

[Dillan]

could be mental cheer up

[ajordana]

hmm your levels look pretty optimal.. like the above said maybe it is mental? what exactly are you feeling? hows your thyroid? your test and estrogen both seem to be in check now..

[SEOINAGE]

low prolactin and e2? maybe reduce ai dosage slightly.

[bass]

you could be binding. did you check SHBG? i agree with SEOINAGE regarding AI. BTW, how long you been on TRT?

[steroid.com 1]

Cortisol????????

What was the biggest change to your protocol in the last two weeks?

E2 slightly suppressed...feeling like crap "could" be the introduction of the AI if the past two weeks.

Added any supplements?

Life events...stress at work or your girl or financail situation...???

[Vettester]

Agree with GD that the AI could very well be the culprit. I know I don't feel very good in the teens with my E2, let alone if my body had to drop from 70 in a short time. Other labs would be helpful, e.g., full thryroid panels and cortisol, and even DHEA why you're at it. If they ran an albumin lab with your metabolic panels, we can use that to calculate the SHBG when your free test score comes in. Did they run liver enzymes (ALT/AST)? ... That's also a good indicator of stress in the body.

[zaggahamma]

not enough info really

title: "still" feel like crap
so, you never saw any benefits since you started trt? what were the biggest issues prior? no thyroid bloodwork? be more specific about feeling like crap..

definitely agree with vette that e2 dropped a bit low fast

[bullshark99]

My thoughts exactly, E2 70 down to the teens?? Seems like a big dip, real fast. Copy above, what do you mean "crap" define symptoms pls

[vere76]

My body feels run down still no enrgy ache joints, i will back of the dex to .5 a week and see what happens I did see benifits the first month but they seem to slowly go away. I did have thryroid panels and every thing was normal.

[zaggahamma]

My body feels run down still no enrgy ache joints, i will back of the dex to .5 a week and see what happens I did see benifits the first month but they seem to slowly go away. I did have thryroid panels and every thing was normal.

post em up anyway if u will

your test wasnt that low to begin with but u got it up there pretty high...u didnt feel any boost in any aspect the first month, or two?

[vere76]

I have to pick them up from the doc so it will be a day or two. I did feel a boost the first 2 months

[HRTstudent]

Feeling like "crap" is super subjective and almost worthless from a diagnostic standpoint.

While your numbers are good, could that be an issue somehow? Maybe, but it's probably more likely that you feel crappy from something else. Now that you have physiologic, "healthy" numbers you could explore the possibility of other things that are affecting you. Perhaps you are depressed, life changes, etc etc. There is literally a mountain of things to delve into.

[Mr Bill]

What about low vitamin D?? The Endo I had checked me for low vitamin D and Thyroid before TRT. My vitamin D was fine but Thyroid was screwed up. Doc said low D and Thyroid cam make you feel like crap the same way low T can.

[steroid.com 1]

Feeling like "crap" is super subjective and almost worthless from a diagnostic standpoint.

Sorry, but I completely disagree with that statement.

One of the "golden rules" among well trained TRT Physicians is to ask men "how they feel" before even looking BW results.

Symptoms and how a man feels are absolutely vital in my opinion in assessing and diagnosing anyone for that matter!

Maybe you meant to say it another way?

[HRTstudent]

Sorry, but I completely disagree with that statement.

One of the "golden rules" among well trained TRT Physicians is to ask men "how they feel" before even looking BW results.

Symptoms and how a man feels are absolutely vital in my opinion in assessing and diagnosing anyone for that matter!

Maybe you meant to say it another way?

Feeling like crap is very important, but in this case we have a hard time saying he feels like crap because of his testosterone . At an initial setting a doctor could very well suspect low T as a culprit. But they will also look down certain avenues. If the doctor was armed with information such as healthy, normal T levels he would almost assuredly move past T being the problem he needs to pursue.