Test cyp vs test enanthate

[stoic1]

I have read that thee two types of test are virtually identical but has anyone alternated weekly injections of these and had issues? Is this ill advised?

[bass]

no need to alternate, you can if you want to. my clinic prescribes 10% test e mixed with 90% test cyp for my TRT, I've seen some vials mixed with 50/50.

[stoic1]

My Dr. Gives 200 mg of cyp a month, at one time for trt, I acquired some enanth and wanted to supplement my dr's since I have been told his protocol is garbage. I would get his 200ml injection the first of the month and inject myself 200 ml of enanth on the 15th until I can get a full blood work-up done.

[bass]

just find another doctor. self medicating will only throw off your future blood work and you won't be treated properly. even with twice a month you still on a huge roller coaster ride, at a minimum you really need to do it once a week, even if its 100 mgs. but its your call!

[JD250]

Dont make a bad protocol worse, either talk him through it or find someone who knows a little more.

[JohnnyVegas]

Agree with everyone above. If you are going to do TRT, do it with pharm grade Test. So much safer. And don't believe anyone that says they are giving you pharm grade. It is only pharm grade if you pick it up at a pharmacy. Almost everything else is counterfeit.

[ghettoboyd]

Agree with everyone above. If you are going to do TRT, do it with pharm grade Test. So much safer. And don't believe anyone that says they are giving you pharm grade. It is only pharm grade if you pick it up at a pharmacy. Almost everything else is counterfeit.

i agree with what your saying that pharm grade is the most pure and legit form of test but there are many ugl's that produce great products that work equally as well and are far from "counterfit" imho...

[stoic1]

I am definitely working on the new doctor. But this bottle cost me $30 and it's from a good friend who said it came from his Dr.

I'm going to go with the 100ml a week until I can get in to a new doc. I'm a single father with custody of my two young children, sometimes I don't have time to scratch my ass, much less make it to the doctor but I think this is important. My friend is getting me in to see his doc in March, they are very busy.

Thanks again everyone.

[JD250]

I hear ya buddy, 100mgs is somewhat normal, that being said without knowing what any of your BW looks like is probably not great advice but if you are low T I would rather be using 100 mgs a week than 200 every other week or 200 a month, be safe and keep looking for a doc that can help.......what about HCG or an AI.....considering the protocol he put you on I'm sure he didn't consider any of that......please keep searching or find a doc who will consult with Dr. Crisler, it's a small fee but will be well worth it considering it's your health and well being at stake here.

[stoic1]

In an earlier thread I posted limited bloodwork results, test was at 80, I was told that was SUPER low on here. I'll post a pic of the results page, maybe I'm reading it wrong. Doc made no mention of HCG or AI, and I am switching docs next month. BUT, until then I wanted to improve my quality of life. I know it's only one month but with test that low, I'm just not willing to go back to feeling like crap.

I will have the new doc do all new blood work panel and post here. Appointment is for March 14th and I'm looking forward to it.

I will find my previous results and post here as well.

Thanks.

[JohnnyVegas]

i agree with what your saying that pharm grade is the most pure and legit form of test but there are many ugl's that produce great products that work equally as well and are far from "counterfit" imho...

They are counterfeit if they claim to be pharm, that was my only point. But I know what you mean.

However, you know what a mess it is out there. Who knows what his guy can get. I believe the Test needs to be accurately dosed and consistent from batch to batch in order to work for TRT. How can you get your levels right and consistent if the product isn't? It doesn't matter as much on a blast...it doesn't hurt much if you are taking 500mg or 700mg when you think you are taking 600mg, but with TRT it is rough if you want 100mg/wk and you get 80mg for a vial and then 110 for a vial. Doing blood work becomes meaningless because you cannot adjust your dose if it is based on unknown doses.

[bass]

i agree with what your saying that pharm grade is the most pure and legit form of test but there are many ugl's that produce great products that work equally as well and are far from "counterfit" imho...

maybe good but still a counterfeit!

[stoic1]

Ok, here is the test results I received, I removed personal info.

[APIs]

They are counterfeit if they claim to be pharm, that was my only point. But I know what you mean.

However, you know what a mess it is out there. Who knows what his guy can get. I believe the Test needs to be accurately dosed and consistent from batch to batch in order to work for TRT. How can you get your levels right and consistent if the product isn't? It doesn't matter as much on a blast...it doesn't hurt much if you are taking 500mg or 700mg when you think you are taking 600mg, but with TRT it is rough if you want 100mg/wk and you get 80mg for a vial and then 110 for a vial. Doing blood work becomes meaningless because you cannot adjust your dose if it is based on unknown doses.

x2. UGL material may be fine for an occasional blast etc. but continual TRT requires Rx Grade product IMO. UGLs simply have no SOPs (Standard Operating Procedures), Quality Control or any measure off which to base consistency. So technically speaking, it's impossible to verify what you're getting from batch to batch. For peace of mind, Rx is the only way to go for TRT...

[APIs]

I am definitely working on the new doctor. But this bottle cost me $30 and it's from a good friend who said it came from his Dr. I'm a single father with custody of my two young children, sometimes I don't have time to scratch my ass, much less make it to the doctor but I think this is important.

I definitely hear you, but you owe it to your kids to get the correct treatment and to do it legally. You've made the first step, just be sure to follow through. A lot of people here can help you. Just continue to ask questions...

[JD250]

^^^ yep, do what you must for a few weeks but keep in mind it's only a little while till you see your new doc so don't get carried away.

[stoic1]

Absolutely, to everything above. I've been reading stickies and have learned a bunch, not to mention comments from members. Thanks , I'll post an update after I see the new doctor.

[TED66]

They are counterfeit if they claim to be pharm, that was my only point. But I know what you mean.

However, you know what a mess it is out there. Who knows what his guy can get. I believe the Test needs to be accurately dosed and consistent from batch to batch in order to work for TRT. How can you get your levels right and consistent if the product isn't? It doesn't matter as much on a blast...it doesn't hurt much if you are taking 500mg or 700mg when you think you are taking 600mg, but with TRT it is rough if you want 100mg/wk and you get 80mg for a vial and then 110 for a vial. Doing blood work becomes meaningless because you cannot adjust your dose if it is based on unknown doses.

i have ordered pharmacy and it was not fake .....the pharm rhymes with earring. pricey but legit

[JohnnyVegas]

i have ordered pharmacy and it was not fake .....the pharm rhymes with earring. pricey but legit

There are more UGLs duplicating legit labels then there are real pharmacy grade drugs out there. The market is flooded with fakes. Even fakes of trusted UGLs. The odds of getting the real stuff is slim. Not saying yours was or wasn't.

I get a lot of peace of mind when I get mine at CVS rather than some guy or website.

Sorry for the tangent. Glad to hear you (OP) are going to find another doctor. It will be beneficial in the long run.

[TED66]

There are more UGLs duplicating legit labels then there are real pharmacy grade drugs out there. The market is flooded with fakes. Even fakes of trusted UGLs. The odds of getting the real stuff is slim. Not saying yours was or wasn't.

I get a lot of peace of mind when I get mine at CVS rather than some guy or website.

Sorry for the tangent. Glad to hear you (OP) are going to find another doctor. It will be beneficial in the long run.

yeah i wish i could get it like that and i would feel 100% in product sterility ,potency, free of metals, etc..