Hello my name is Low T, @ 23

[TRTME]

So to start I'd like to say I know I ****ed up. I don't need people to tell me everything I did wrong. And unfortunately the lesson has been learned to late. I just need direction and help from those who live with TRT.

I took some Prohormones. I used Novla and Clomid for PCT. I did not return to normal, So I ran another PCT. Same thing. The following blood work is after over a year of not taking any supplements.

August 2011 1:15PM

Prolactin: 8.1 ng/dL range 4-15.2

FSH 1.1 mIU/mL range 1.5-12.4

LH 2.1 mIU/mL RANGE 1.7-8.6

Test Serum 315 ng/dL 249-836

Feb 2012 1:17PM

LH- 1.4mIU/mL range 1.7-8.6

Test Serum 273 ng/dL range 348-1197

It seems obvious to me that I qualify for some sort of help, weather it be TRT or Clomifiene

Now my doctor I can see for free doesn't have and endocrinologist. I saw an outside doctor and paid a fee of $285. She told me to get blood work done again in 2 months.(thats the second results) Now I came back and she has left the office. The other doctor told me I have low test. (no shit) and to schedule another appointment. So now they want me to pay again. (originally I was going to be called and the previous doctor would prescribe me and Id would come in and pick up the script.)

I want to know if there is any where I can mail or fax my results and be prescribed something? I saw this in Bigger faster stronger.
Do you think I should be given a free appointment because the doctor I saw left?
What are my options?
What are my limitations for options because Im only 23?

Now remember I have been off everything for a year and my result have only shown a decrease in test.

[pugster]

at your age it is more important by far to find out what is causing the low test /lh/fsh than to get anything prescribed right away.

[Kk570h]

What's up dude? Welcome to the board! I am currently suffering from the same at age 24 , except I never used its just naturally low in my case.. I have a few threads open and from all the help from everybody here I can say you need to get it regulated with some HRT and monitored by a doctor until you can get it up again ..there's a lot of info on it throughout the board just get to reading , anything you can't understand or have questions feel free to ask ,people here are well educated on the subject and will steer you in the right direction

[Kk570h]

at your age it is more important by far to find out what is causing the low test /lh/fsh than to get anything prescribed right away.

Pugster he said he messed up by taking a cycle and then trying to fix with another cycle ...isnt it okay to say that's the reason it is low? He has no access to an endo and prices get kind of crazy for specialists ..

[TRTME]

Well the cause would be the Prohormones

and seeing how i tried two recommended PCT protocols and its been a year since ive been on anything, and its only gotten lower, id say now is the time to be prescribed something. This has been a long year, and I cant beleave I still have a gf after all this

[Kk570h]

Well the cause would be the Prohormones

and seeing how i tried two recommended PCT protocols and its been a year since ive been on anything, and its only gotten lower, id say now is the time to be prescribed something. This has been a long year, and I cant beleave I still have a gf after all this

We're in the same boat dude! Keep in touch let me know how things go ..you most definitley need to get prescribed something and monitored til it levels out (same as I am doing now, patiently waiting) ..our levels are almost the same , either way they're both LOW ..

[redz]

What about HCG ?

[TRTME]

all im really asking here is to be pointed in a direction.
is there such thing as I can send me bloodwork some where and be prescribed something?
HCG I was told wasnt an option the reasons I was told didnt make sense to me though

[Kk570h]

all im really asking here is to be pointed in a direction.
is there such thing as I can send me bloodwork some where and be prescribed something?
HCG I was told wasnt an option the reasons I was told didnt make sense to me though

Its a shit you usually get twice a week. It makes sure your body still produce its own test, and will make sure your nuts don't shrivel up like raisins. Basically when you start injecting test your body recognizes it and sees all this extra and decides not to produce its own. Hence the nut shrinkage. HCG will eliminate this.

[Kk570h]

Aren't these results from your doctor? You need to see a doctor and have him diagnose you (most likely he will want to run his own tests) and get it managed ..

[pugster]

Pugster he said he messed up by taking a cycle and then trying to fix with another cycle ...isnt it okay to say that's the reason it is low? He has no access to an endo and prices get kind of crazy for specialists ..

he hasnt said hes been diagnosed with anything?
hes tried multiple restarts without hcg ?

did you ever have any tests done before you took the prohormones? maybe you had low test before you even started them?

all im trying to say is see a specialist and get a correct diagnosis before you take anything else , hrt is for life.

[TRTME]

My blood work was done at my primary doctors. He is not an endo.
I went to an outside practice and was told to get more blood work and send the results. she would then write a script and I could come pick it up. That cost me $285 to be told to get more blood work.
She then left the practice and now the other doctor at the practice wants me to see him. aka the whole process will start over again and he will probably tell me to get more blood work and see him again. I guess I want to know if online trt prescriptions are real and how to get them. And if not do you think I have leverage on getting seen for free or my money back.

[TRTME]

yes i was around 700 before I took anything, and I tried hcg in my first pct.

[TRTME]

I was told I by the doctor I have low test, so i guess I was diagnosed, but nothing was done to fix this.

[pugster]

i know next to little about the U.S system , cant you just request your bloodwork results again and take them to the new doc? , saying you have low test isnt a diagnosis its just a statement.

[TRTME]

well considering I already paid $285, Im looking for a different direction. I dont want this to happen again. the practice seems kinda sketch now.
But yes I could. Im looking for other options.
ANy body on the online thing?

[Kk570h]

My blood work was done at my primary doctors. He is not an endo.
I went to an outside practice and was told to get more blood work and send the results. she would then write a script and I could come pick it up. That cost me $285 to be told to get more blood work.
She then left the practice and now the other doctor at the practice wants me to see him. aka the whole process will start over again and he will probably tell me to get more blood work and see him again. I guess I want to know if online trt prescriptions are real and how to get them. And if not do you think I have leverage on getting seen for free or my money back.

You don't want to do it on your own .. Seems to me like you're looking for an easy way out.. Don't settle for more bloodwork and another visit tell him you've had plenty he will see it in your chart and I'm sure the endo you went to sill has our records

[TRTME]

I have copies of all my blood work and I gave it to him to look at. he said I have low test.

YEAH NO SHIT

Now what do I do? He is trying to swindle me into paying another $285, and Im not down for that.

[Kk570h]

Yeah the online thing isn't going to be any cheaper as our complaining about seeing a doctor for free ..bottom line HRT cannot be done by you alone you need doctor getting bloodwork monitoring you while on it , you are basically saying you want to just do another cycle lol that's not your answer for FIXING this it is what put you in this position

[TRTME]

thats not what Im saying at all. I dont know how you got that outta this.

I want to be prescribed something to help me. I can get blood work from my doctor for $7, when ever I want. The outside endo, wants another $285. I feel scammed by this place because I paid the other endo and she left. So No I dont want another "cycle" I want a legally prescribed theropy. is the online thing real? I have heard it is and seen it on Bigger faster stronger.

I have said nothing about doing a cycle..

[TRTME]

and by online I dont mean ordering it off blackmarket websites

[Brohim]

Search around for doctors in your town that specialize in TRT. Call compounding pharmacies and ask them which docs they work with.

[Brohim]

If you live close to FL there are a bunch of them there. You could fly to see a doc too. Many options

[TRTME]

AS far as I could find the practice I am going to is the only one in my city. BUt the compounding pharmacy idea is a help. thanks

[Kk570h]

I apologize thought you were just beating around it... Therapy and steroid cycle are the same thing ..only I've seen different SOME therapy doesn't require high dosage but I've seen people prescribed to 200mg on therapy alone! The BIG difference between the both is the monitoring dude ..a lot of blood work and tests... and you don't need to see an endo your doctor can easily prescribe you therapy and HELP you . If he's anti steroid and doesn't want to hear shyt switch doctors you really have no choice .. An endo might be recommended from your doctor if "there's nothing in his eyes that he can do for you" ...knowledge might be preventing him from doing it on his own ...sit down and talk to him or go elsewhere!

[Brohim]

On a side note that is crazy you did one prohormone cycle and your test fell by 500 points and stayed there?

[Brohim]

AS far as I could find the practice I am going to is the only one in my city. BUt the compounding pharmacy idea is a help. thanks

yep. I would also start a new thread and ask guys on here if anyone lives in your state and ask them which doctor they use. Recommendations never hurt. It could save you a lot of money and time.

[TRTME]

My doctor told me I need to see an endocro for help. I dont think just any doctor would want to prescribe me test because he is not specifically familiar with it.
aka he sent me to an endo, and I agree with that. WHAT ARE ONLINE OPTIONS! I KNOW WHAT MY OTHER OPTION IS

and TRT and doing a cycle ARE NOT the same thing.

a cycle is a high dose for 6-10 weeks
and trt is a lower dose to put me in normal range for the rest of my life....

you are not helping and I feel like my knowledge base is higher then yours. thanks but id like info from other people now.

[TRTME]

yep. I would also start a new thread and ask guys on here if anyone lives in your state and ask them which doctor they use. Recommendations never hurt. It could save you a lot of money and time.

thanks man you ARE helping

[Kk570h]

My doctor told me I need to see an endocro for help. I dont think just any doctor would want to prescribe me test because he is not specifically familiar with it.
aka he sent me to an endo, and I agree with that. WHAT ARE ONLINE OPTIONS! I KNOW WHAT MY OTHER OPTION IS

and TRT and doing a cycle ARE NOT the same thing.

a cycle is a high dose for 6-10 weeks
and trt is a lower dose to put me in normal range for the rest of my life....

you are not helping and I feel like my knowledge base is higher then yours. thanks but id like info from other people now.

CYCLE doses and TRT doses CAN be both HIGH , depending on your doctor .. If you're low naturally youre right you will be on it the rest of your life and in best case scenario IF you do stop you will be back to your old low range .. There are 0 online options besides get EDUCATED , but then again if you were the slightest bit you wouldn't be this old with such a range that you messed up for being careless.. Anyway go find your help you're ignorance won't get you far here and phishing for a website will get you booted soon enough ..

[HRTstudent]

Are you looking for a strictly online physician?

There is no benefit to an online physician over seeing one in person. There are many benefits to seeing one in person of course.

Don't bother with the endo who you feel is trying to scam you. But if you have insurance there are many you can consider. Some people talk to local pharmacies to find out what docs prescribe testosterone therapy .

[bass]

read all the stickies, especially this one,

Finding a TRT Physician