Cycling amounts of test on trt

**doc w** · 02-24-2012, 09:28 PM

Does anyone have an opinion about cycling testosterone amounts on TRT. For example doing 120 mg for six weeks then increasing to 280 for six weeks and so forth. So on average u would be getting 200mg per a week but have the advantage of higher teat levels during the six week period, with possibility of increased muscle gains. Just a theoretical question

**bass** · 02-24-2012, 10:30 PM

we call it blasting! and yes you can blast once or twice a year depending on your health, but six weeks won't do much, 12-14 weeks is what most do.

**doc w** · 02-24-2012, 10:32 PM

What ratio would u suggest both high and low values( I realize this may differ from person to person)

**bass** · 02-24-2012, 10:42 PM

i can only state my experience, i am on 120 mgs per week test, and when i did a blast it was 300/300 test/deca . some do 400-600 test, but you really have to be healthy to do that amount, otherwise your BP and heart rate will go through the roof, not to mention RBC, hemoglobin, hematocrit, e2.... i cut my cycle short due to sides!

**FONZY007** · 02-24-2012, 10:45 PM

Originally Posted by bass

i can only state my experience, i am on 120 mgs per week test, and when i did a blast it was 300/300 test/deca. some do 400-600 test, but you really have to be healthy to do that amount, otherwise your BP and heart rate will go through the roof, not to mention RBC, hemoglobin, hematocrit, e2.... i cut my cycle short due to sides!

What sides did you get bass from running that low of test and deca

**grumpee** · 02-24-2012, 10:58 PM

If I was you I would blast with 400-500 mgs of prop a week for 6-8 weeks. Just make sure you increase your calories to

**kelkel** · 02-25-2012, 11:21 AM

Doc paruse this thread. May be what your looking for.....

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...t-to-read-this!

**doc w** · 02-25-2012, 11:46 AM

Sounds very interesting. Been on TRT for seven months now so, decreasing amount for 2 weeks after 8 weeks on would make sense. I wonder if my wife will notice that I am more sensitive after the two weeks. Ha!

**Vettester** · 02-25-2012, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by grumpee

If I was you I would blast with 400-500 mgs of prop a week for 6-8 weeks. Just make sure you increase your calories to

But due to its ester and short half life, wouldn't the OP have to be injecting at least eod? If he is already on Cyp for TRT, is there an advantage you see with going to prop? Granted, there is more actual testosterone per ml in prop than there is in cyp, but for TRT blast purposes, I would think that increasing the medication (cyp) that you're currently on, and adding a completely different compound such as deca or anavar would give the individual more bang for the buck. Maybe there's something I'm not seeing here ...

**bass** · 02-25-2012, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by FONZY007

What sides did you get bass from running that low of test and deca

thickening of the blood, high levels of RBC and hemoglobin, i was getting tired, headaches and my PVC's increased! i guess i have to accept blasting is not for me!

**grumpee** · 02-27-2012, 01:56 AM

Originally Posted by vetteman08

But due to its ester and short half life, wouldn't the OP have to be injecting at least eod? If he is already on Cyp for TRT, is there an advantage you see with going to prop? Granted, there is more actual testosterone per ml in prop than there is in cyp, but for TRT blast purposes, I would think that increasing the medication (cyp) that you're currently on, and adding a completely different compound such as deca or anavar would give the individual more bang for the buck. Maybe there's something I'm not seeing here ...

advantage with prop is shorter blast time and that makes shorter time off etc. Yes EOD injections are needed with prop. A few of the vets are the ones who got me into blasting with short esters

**lovbyts** · 02-27-2012, 02:17 AM

If your TRT dose is 120mg a week for your first blast just jump up to 300mg for 10-12 weeks and see how it goes. You will defiantly notice a difference but keep an AI on hand just in case of elevated E2.
No need to ramp up or down.

**Gym_** · 02-27-2012, 02:20 AM

They all make pretty good points.. i agree with almost ever thing above... LOL

**zaggahamma** · 02-27-2012, 08:41 AM

tried it but never saw any noticeable benefit by just upping test dose to 300-400...only when adding in deca did i see large strength gains

**doc w** · 02-27-2012, 09:26 AM

If running test at 200 per week how many weeks should I keep my dosage at 120/ mg per week

**lovbyts** · 02-27-2012, 09:33 AM

How long have you been running at 200? That's really not much of a blast or difference so if you want to try a blast jump up to 400 for 12 weeks anytime you want but dont play with it up/down. Just go up to 400 and keep it there until the 12 weeks is done then back down to your TRT dose of 120. Then evaluate your gains but remember, diet is key.

**doc w** · 02-27-2012, 09:39 AM

Been running 200 hundred fro greater than six months with good gains and feeling great. However my most recent labs( posted on hrt section today) show I am running at the top end of normal. I'm thinking of going down to 150 per a week for a period of time.

**lovbyts** · 02-27-2012, 09:42 AM

OK yeah I saw that but you are still IN range so??? If it was me I dont think I would mess with it or as I posted in your other thread maybe only drop it 25mg for a few weeks and see how it goes first

**doc w** · 02-27-2012, 09:59 AM

Great thnx

**zaggahamma** · 02-27-2012, 11:15 AM

Just to b clear ...I meant after being on trt for over a year after plateuing I didn't see anything from bumping up test dosage alone

**doc w** · 02-27-2012, 04:42 PM

Holman. Do u think that's because of receptors downgrading and that if u lower dosages for a while and then go higher I will get better results,Ike the slingshot link mentioned earlier in the posts

**doc w** · 02-27-2012, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by doc w

Holman. Do u think that's because of receptors downgrading and that if u lower dosages for a while and then go higher I will get better results,Ike the slingshot link mentioned earlier in the posts

I meant jpkman. Effin Iphone

**doc w** · 02-27-2012, 04:44 PM

I meant jpkman. Effin Iphone

**zaggahamma** · 02-27-2012, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by doc w

Holman. Do u think that's because of receptors downgrading and that if u lower dosages for a while and then go higher I will get better results,Ike the slingshot link mentioned earlier in the posts

i actually dont know bro...up until about a year ago..i never really went lower than 150mg...just recently started keeping it around 100mg (weekly i'm talking) and havent tried ramping up in about a year...and when i did i didnt see any thing that i wouldnt have gotten by upping calories a bit ...i'm talking like 300 mg for about 6 weeks or something bumped from 150 and not seeing anything i just taper back down..

i cant remember anyone posting here that just blast up on the test and post noticeable gains...the few ppl that blast i believe add deca , anavar , etc. maybe even hgh...