We may be over dosing on ALL of our TRT components

[freshmaker]

And nobody hear does P90X. We go to real gyms, take steroids , and eat boring diets instead of being WEAK and caving in to our food indulgences like SISSIES. It's not ripped peoples fault for being able to deal with the mental and physical stress of doing cardio. If you think cardio is for "sissies", maybe you should try it first. I'd like to see how much of a sissy you'd think i am after doing my high intensity interval cardio. Not exactly a girly aerobics class my friend. Neither is the monotony of my lower intensity 45-60 minute cardio sessions.
Just my 2 CENTS...
Sorry, just had to say it..

I do a couple of p90x cycles each year. I get extremely cut doing it. No doubt it's uncool, but it works for me.

[zaggahamma]

i think billy bob was talking about those that think JUST because they have abs and the rest of their body is thin they think theyre something

if you have abs along with the rest (asthetic) then hats off to you...most want such a body

my .02

[Brohim]

BB was talking about fighting. Usually the bigger guy win's but if you know how to fight that isn't the case anymore. But fighting you need stamina to win. The HW division is alway's boring. They are tired after the first round.

[Hackamaniac]

BB was talking about fighting. Usually the bigger guy win's but if you know how to fight that isn't the case anymore. But fighting you need stamina to win. The HW division is alway's boring. They are tired after the first round.

Was never the case...Remember Royce Gracie??? And plenty of heavyweights can go more than a round...Don't know which fights you've been watching...

[zaggahamma]

I didnt think he was talking about fighting...hmmmm..maybe i read it wrong

[Hackamaniac]

I didnt think he was talking about fighting...hmmmm..maybe i read it wrong

Well, what else would it be??? Even lil pretty boys can protect families with guns...

[zaggahamma]

Never said they were pretty either Lmao

[JD250]

and as far as 1mg of arimidex per 100mg of test, i dont know where that dumb idea came from, I never agreed with that. A-dex at that dose is for when your on a cycle and has no place in hrt IMO, unless the patient is starting out very obese and producing a ton of aromatase from his extra adiposity. Maybe .25, eod for therapy.
Heck, some doctors actually use JUST adex as a form of TRT since it raises test levels. But if your shooting 100mgs a week anyway you certainly dont need that level of adex to have a good T/E ratio or T level.

Not entirely true.......1mg per 100mgs can and does often work when just starting TRT.......BW is the only way to know for sure although typically it doesn't require that dose long term depending on the person. I'm just saying....we need to approach this from a logical standpoint and not make broad sweeping statements. I would start at a much lower dose and go from there but we can't say what will and will not work with such certainty.

[JD250]

And furthermore, if you think your abs can stop a bullet you're a fvcking idiot, pretty boy or not I'll take BB on my side over some skinny fvck with a six pack......sorry boys I've got enough experience to know how this movie ends.

[Times Roman]

Im at 80mg test c per week

[JD250]

TR....what are your total and free levels at that dose?

[Hackamaniac]

And furthermore, if you think your abs can stop a bullet you're a fvcking idiot, pretty boy or not I'll take BB on my side over some skinny fvck with a six pack......sorry boys I've got enough experience to know how this movie ends.

Who said anything about stopping a bullet with abs??? Anyone can be tough with a gun, regardless of age or anything else....

[JD250]

OK, this is stuff for the lounge though as much as I'd like to shoot you in the abs we should probably keep this stuff out of this forum and in the lounge.

[Hackamaniac]

OK, this is stuff for the lounge though as much as I'd like to shoot you in the abs we should probably keep this stuff out of this forum and in the lounge.

Wish I had abs

[AnabolicBoy1981]

BB was talking about fighting. Usually the bigger guy win's but if you know how to fight that isn't the case anymore. But fighting you need stamina to win. The HW division is alway's boring. They are tired after the first round.

oh...he was talking about fighting? cuz theres a forum for that....but i'm pretty sure this was a TRT thread.

But i'll entertain that for a minute since im such a nice guy. George St. Peirre..abs. Randy couture...abs. Uriah Faber...abs..

...BB is right...pussies..all of e'm. I wouldn't want those three on my side in a street fight. Only the heavy weights and super heavy weights are "real" men. Heck..even Brock had semi-abs. And i'll let BB and his supporters in on a little secret....that stomach problem he had that caused him to retire..........it was his abs. I heard from a very reliable inside source, that the docs said he had far too much abs for a heavy weight. They tried to do surgery to get rid of the abs...but it didn't work %100...you could still vaguely see the outline. This ultimately made brock feel less manly, and i heard he even started shaving his legs and wearing Sables clothes. The Drs. said he would get hurt unless he completely submerged his abs in fat. Alas, his abs affected his performance and made him less aggressive....and Cain defeated him. They should have never cleared him to fight *sigh*

[Honkey_Kong]

I just hear a guy whose angry cuz he's fat. Actually i prefer being jacked AND having abs, thank you very much. Few guys here want to be "skinny". I don't think being less ripped = more manly. I'm pretty sure Spartans were pretty manly and they celebrated the athleticism and beauty of the body, and they could kick ass. And yes...im sure the REAL Spartans were not as ripped as the guys in "300", but we don't know that they weren't either. Greco roman statues depicted men with 8 packs...so i doubt abs were look upon by feudal peoples as "sissy".
And nobody hear does P90X. We go to real gyms, take steroids , and eat boring diets instead of being WEAK and caving in to our food indulgences like SISSIES. It's not ripped peoples fault for being able to deal with the mental and physical stress of doing cardio. If you think cardio is for "sissies", maybe you should try it first. I'd like to see how much of a sissy you'd think i am after doing my high intensity interval cardio. Not exactly a girly aerobics class my friend. Neither is the monotony of my lower intensity 45-60 minute cardio sessions.
Just my 2 CENTS...
Sorry, just had to say it..

Of course you want to be ripped, you dance for men in a gay bar. As far as P90X goes, that workout is legit. I prefer to lift weights, but I won't knock that workout one bit.

[zaggahamma]

both funny posts

[JD250]

Lol .

[funkymonk]

Ecdysone, mind linking me (here or via PM) to that 440iu hCG study? I'm trying to gather info to present to my doc at my next appointment so he will agree to give me hCG.


As a note pertaining to the topic, I've found that bloodwork is the only way to tell "for sure" what's excessive or inadequate (obviously taking symptoms into account as well). I do exceptionally well on 100mg and 2x .5mg Adex, but others are at lower serum T levels than me on more than double that (extreme cases, but you get the gist).

[ecdysone]

^^^

Here you go: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20484472

[ecdysone]

TR....what are your total and free levels at that dose?

Ditto that and are you using any HCG /AI?

[bass]

And furthermore, if you think your abs can stop a bullet you're a fvcking idiot, pretty boy or not I'll take BB on my side over some skinny fvck with a six pack......sorry boys I've got enough experience to know how this movie ends.

LMAO!!!! this was a good thread at one point, what happened?!

[zaggahamma]

We have to take off the Poindexter glasses every now and then and have some fun

[bass]

LOL! its all good!

[JD250]

We have to take off the Poindexter glasses every now and then and have some fun

Very true.

[funkymonk]

^^^

Here you go: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20484472

Thanks!