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    GFA
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    Blast and cruise questions for the pros :)

    Hey guys,

    I am thinking about doing a blast after :

    1. I get my hormones in order
    2. get to sub 15% BF
    3. properly educate myself on everything I need to do and look out for
    4. max out gains in gym naturally
    5. achieve 1-4 above and think really hard if I still want to do it

    As some of you know Im 41 and going to be on TRT for life. Currently doing 100mg test a week with 500 iu HCG , no AI yet. Getting BW next week.

    I have never done a cycle before so was thinking of just doing 400mg of test a week with X mg of AI (ldex) a week, Im guessing around 3-4mg. I have ldex now. The blast will be around 10-12 weeks.

    A few questions.

    400mg test good for first blast?
    Should I get letro for the blast just in case of gyno?
    How much AI should I use? .5 mg EOD of ldex? (I can get pills if necessary)
    At the end of 12 weeks do I just go back to 100mg a week and resume normal TRT?
    What do you do if BP gets high? Currently BP is 120/80ish (normal).
    Anything else I should have/do/consider?

    Thanks all for your feedback!

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    Good questions ... I Need to know some of the same things !

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    Quote Originally Posted by GFA View Post
    A few questions.

    400mg test good for first blast? Yes 400 mgs is good for your first blast...
    Should I get letro for the blast just in case of gyno? Can't hurt. good to have stuff on hand just incase
    How much AI should I use? .5 mg EOD of ldex? (I can get pills if necessary) start out with a 1/4 ED. some people dont need it at all. Only use it if you need it.
    At the end of 12 weeks do I just go back to 100mg a week and resume normal TRT? Yes
    What do you do if BP gets high? Currently BP is 120/80ish (normal). Cardio and a proper diet is what helps keep blood pressure in check
    Anything else I should have/do/consider? Make sure your diet and work out is dialed . Diets everything

    Thanks all for your feedback!
    Answers in bold

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    Agree with Grumpee on a lot of what he posted. IMO though, I don't think you need the letro if you're already dialed in with another AI like Arimidex . Letro is a very strong AI ... If you have Arimidex, then there's no reason to be messing with two AI's. Just keep your E2 in check with the Arimidex from the start and you won't have to be worrying about gyno or the need to get aggressive with the high octane Letro.

    If aromatization is a concern, you could always look at pulling back your testosterone to 300mg or 250mg, and maybe add another compound like Deca , which isn't as estrogenic as testosterone. Plus, IMO, you will get more bang for your buck if you're stacking two different compound types as opposed to just increasing the testosterone.

    Post your BW then we can go from there.

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    Well said by both guys above. Read this:

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...n-cycle-Swifto

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    i agree with the above but I'd take Vette's suggestion regarding AI, and the stacking as well. 0.25 AI ed may not bee enough for 400 mgs test, you should be able to make a good guess based on your current situation and based on your BW. don't forget to donate blood every 2 months and drink lots of water during the bast.

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    Should HCG dosage be increased while blasting?

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    Not necessary.

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    I should have my BW back this week and will post it up from my normal TRT (100mg test, 500 iu HCG , no AI) after first 6 weeks.

    It will be awhile before I consider doing this as I want to make sure I have an ample stock (3 extra vials) to do this and achieve goals outlined above.

    I always wanted to try a cycle and now I possibly can. Had issues adding muscle mass my whole life, will be interesting to see what the future holds.

    This will be straight up test as I dont have access to deca and not interested in getting it from unknown sources.

    Edit: Currently working out 3-4 days a week with weights and cardio pre/post workout + off days. Cardio not a problem

    Going to hit up gym today for some cardio and maybe some deads for fun!
    Last edited by GFA; 03-25-2012 at 06:18 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grumpee View Post
    Answers in red...

    Quote Originally Posted by GFA View Post
    A few questions.

    400mg test good for first blast? Yes 400 mgs is good for your first blast...
    Should I get letro for the blast just in case of gyno? Can't hurt. good to have stuff on hand just incase
    How much AI should I use? .5 mg EOD of ldex? (I can get pills if necessary) start out with a 1/4 ED. some people dont need it at all. Only use it if you need it.
    At the end of 12 weeks do I just go back to 100mg a week and resume normal TRT? Yes
    What do you do if BP gets high? Currently BP is 120/80ish (normal). Cardio and a proper diet is what helps keep blood pressure in check
    Anything else I should have/do/consider? Make sure your diet and work out is dialed . Diets everything

    Thanks all for your feedback!
    Great post!

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    Letro does not treat gyno.
    Letro is an AI.
    If you get gyno you would need a SERM like ralox.

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    is your trt monitored with frquent BW, to see if 100 mgs is enough, if so ,as was pointed outto me
    400 will really offset expected results causing your doctor to lower the dosage, 100 mgs a week is
    pretty standard, why dont you just add another compound to the mix for 6-8 weeks like anavar or
    t-bol, which wont increase your e2 levels, but might nock down your test levels a bit....
    I have had the same problems with gaining mass but I dont feel I can eat 3000 plus calories a day,
    so I resolved to getting stronger as apposed to getting bigger, you will make gains as you get stronger,
    probably solid gains, (without loosing them once you cut back), but gains you will keep......

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