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03-28-2012, 08:11 PM #1Associate Member
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How much on average do testosterone levels drop in one week?
My ENDO ordered Bioavailable Testosterone as part of my BW for my TRT, but our Government's medical plan won't pay for the Bioavailable T test unless the total testosterone level is between 4 - 10 nmol/L.
The day after my last 100mg injection of 100MG/ML testosterone-cypionate , my total testosterone level was 12.5 nmol/L. I'm scheduled to do more BW in 6 days, and was wondering if my total test level would in all probability fall below 10 nmol/L so the lab could do the bioavailable testosterone test.
So, on the average, is it likely that my total testosterone level will have dropped at least 2.5 nmol/L "points" in 6 days?
I've tried searching for this on Google etc, but did not come up with any answers.
Thanks in advance.
I realize this is a general question, but hopefully someone can shed some light on it.Last edited by killergoalie; 03-28-2012 at 10:10 PM.
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03-29-2012, 12:32 AM #2Associate Member
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hey killer, after I believe my own meager production of T had shut down {couple of months into HRT] and before i started HCG my total T dropped hundreds of points by day 6, different scale, So I think you could experience a large drop but I don't think anyone could with certainty predict how big a drop imho, good luck making this all work for you..tell us how it goes!
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03-29-2012, 12:57 AM #3Associate Member
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Thanks keep fightin'.
I'm just hoping that they'll at least drop 2.5 points from a level of `12.5 nmol/L to a level of 10 nmol/L (or lower) so that our Government's Medical Plan will pay for the BioAvailable Testosterone test, instead of just the normal "total testosterone" level test.
My ENDO gave me a requisition to get 2 bioavailable testosterone blood tests per week for 8 consecutive weeks, so on one hand I'm hoping that my total test level is low enough so that the medical plan will allow & pay for the tests, but of course on the other hand, I'm hoping that my test levels go much higher!
I found out today that it would cost me $95 if I were to pay for the bioavailable testosterone test myself.
I also went to a walk-in clinic today, and asked the Dr. if I could have a requisition form to get BW for Estradiol (I specified sensitive assay for males test), albumin, SHBG, and bioavailable testosterone, so at least I'll have the form required to order the BW if I want to pay for it myself.
I had my estradiol level checked about a month ago (not the sensitive assay test though, the lab I used only does one type of estradiol test), and my result was 178 pmol/L from a range of < 156 (Which really doesn't say much except that it is way too high). Hopefully I'll get a better reading, and understanding of where my level is from a sensitive assay test.
Although my ENDO informed me that he can't give me a prescription for an A.I. (I guess different laws in Canada compared to the U.S.A.), he did tell me that if I could get my hands on some through the black market LOL, I should feel free to do so. Just make sure I keep the dosage to around 1mg per 100mg of testosterone-cypionate . Luckily I think I know of a source for some Arimidex .
My only other concern is that seeing that I currently weigh about 330 lbs. I'm wondering if 100mg of 100MG/ML testosterone-cypionate per week is sufficient enough to raise my levels to where I'll actually "feel" it, and benefit from it. I was thinking that I should try 120mg per week in 2 separate doses.
Hopefully though, by the time I'll need to refill my prescription for test-cyp, the pharmacy will have some 200mg/ml vials in stock. (I was lucky to find one that had a 100/ml vial in stock when I got the one I did get. Stupid shortage!!
But yeah, I'll keep letting you know how the battle goes.
Thanks again for the support.
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03-29-2012, 08:48 AM #4Junior Member
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good question killer ,i'v woundered about that also, i take 120mg bi-weekly, and 2 days after last injection, i got tested, my T was at 1500, i wounder what it would be at 4 days after injection, and 6 days? i'v been on TRT for 8 months
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03-29-2012, 09:16 AM #5Associate Member
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Well I'll be going for my next BW on Monday...1 week after my last injection of 100mg, so I'll see what my level is then. I'll post the results here. I realize it's going to be different for each individual, but at least I'll know how my body is reacting.
Also next week I'm going to start twice weekly sub-Q injections @ 50mg per injection, so I'll see how that effects not only my levels, but also how I feel.
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03-29-2012, 11:12 PM #6Associate Member
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Hey killer, interesting point about amt of T, is there any difference between a 160 pound guy and with respect, a big guy at say 330 pounds? can't recall a recent thread on this
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03-29-2012, 11:24 PM #7Associate Member
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Thanks, KF. Yeah, I've done searches, but haven't been able to find any information about this. It may be totally irrelevant, but it seems that other drug dosages often depend on a person's bodyweight, so why shouldn't it be the same for testosterone ? It would be nice to know.
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03-30-2012, 05:01 AM #8
I wanna know too!!!!
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03-30-2012, 05:15 AM #9Associate Member
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i dont think it can be used on a weight basis as everyone uses test at diferent rates depending on a number of factors (inc weight /body fat, how fast aromatase action takes place ,etc etc) , im no chemist but i think its cleared by enzyme action (again this would be different rates depending on the individual).
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03-30-2012, 07:20 AM #10
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03-30-2012, 09:19 AM #11Associate Member
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I was thinking more along the lines of if you go for surgery, and they need to use an anesthetic to put the patient to sleep, they have to know how much of it to use according to the patient's bodyweight, so they either don't give the patient too much, or not enough.
As far as whether or not bodyweight plays any role into the dosages of testosterone go, as I've mentioned, I have no idea, which is why I was asking.
But after reading pugster's reply, he seems to make sense. I guess it doesn't matter what a person weighs, it's all about how the body uses it/breaks it down etc.
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03-30-2012, 09:37 AM #12
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