View Poll Results: Do you supplement your TRT with HCG, or some other supp?
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04-07-2012, 03:29 AM #1
HCG Poll. How many of us are supplementing our TRT with HCG?
Hi Guys,
I started using HCG a week ago and I am over the moon. It started off slow, but the change in me was undeniable in the last 3 days. I am a happier guy. It's amazing to me, 6 months ago, before I started Testosterone Therapy , and all the other supplements I've learned about here, I was a real mess. I don't have to tell you guys, I don't think as I had all the symptoms, like most of us. The only thing is, when I added the HCG, OMG! It took it to a whole new level. I know from reading here, it may subside somewhat, like the T buzz did, but if it stays at 50% of how I feel now, I'll be so happy.
I want to say a HUGE thank you to the best online Forum I've found to date. Reading your posts on Nutrition and Diet and workouts, and especially how and what supplements to take has truly changed my and my Families lives.
THANK YOU!
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04-07-2012, 03:45 AM #2
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New member here as well. Its great to here of your results on the HCG as my TRT doctor is strongly recommending that I combine this weekly with my Test C injections. What dosage are you taking? My doctor has recommended 250 iu twice a week. Once the day before my Test injection and once the day of. Hope this routine gets me feeling the same way cause it seems to be working awesome for you. Good luck in your journey!
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04-07-2012, 03:55 AM #3
Hey,
I just posted in your thread as well. I mentioned that after researching HCG here for the last few weeks, it seems that most people are now using 3x a week at 250iu ea. The old protocol was twice a week, but somewhere along the line it was modified (not sure from who/where). I can attest that it is the shit, I feel happier and more relaxed than I have in years....
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04-07-2012, 04:52 AM #4
For the people who don't want to try it, can you say why? With all the positive comments on the board, why wouldn't you try it?
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04-07-2012, 06:24 AM #5Associate Member
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it not routine to get a script for hcg in this country , afaik unless you are trying for children they dont use it here , atm ive been on trt for roughly 6 months and cant see any reason for taking it atm anyway , other than having the headache of having to source/inject it myself. to me adding more stuff in just adds more problems as x needs to be balanced with y and z etc etc , i dont take an a.i either and have no need to as far as i can see.
there are a few here afaik who dont do either and are having no problems , to some our health system may seem archaic as docs only prescribe as needed , the system in the U.S is money orientated , the more shite they can put you on the more money they will make from you or your insurance company, some of the protocols ppl have been put on from day 1 ive seen in here would be classed as malpractice in the EU.
if i think at some point in the future i actually need it i might give it a go, but this would have to be without my consultants help as above its not used here as a matter of routine.
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04-07-2012, 10:11 AM #6
If you research the topic, you’ll find it’s important to keep the Testes working with HCG in order to maintain hormonal balance during TRT. I'd wager that you'll re-visit the use of HCG in a few months when your testes become non-existent like many here have experienced. Neither healthcare system is perfect, but no one can argue the fact that money & free markets drive innovation. IMO, that’s why Socialized Medicine lacks the many available treatments that are considered standard-care under our system. No offense, but it’s amusing how someone outside the U.S. can mock our system yet end-up benefiting from the many advances that it pioneers.
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04-07-2012, 11:33 AM #7Associate Member
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my intention was not to mock any countries system , mearly to point out that any system where money is the main drive is open to abuse more so than when it not so the people there need to be more careful with what doctors they choose and what treatments they take , the exact opposite is true here-when finding any doctor to treat you is the problem. no offence, but the U.S is not the only country that pioneers and develops new medical treatments that benefit other countries.
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04-07-2012, 12:51 PM #8Associate Member
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Many people with the resources come to the USA for treatment.
http://blog.heritage.org/2010/02/09/...go-to-america/
Pros and cons to both privatized and socialism health care system. I prefer private as I have good health insurance and wait times are lower here.
Regardless of your stance on our health care system or what people are doing on this board, you can use it to your benefit and decide what course of action you will want to take in the future.
Your balls are shrinking and constantly ache? Hey now you know to pick up some HCG and take 250 iu 2x a week.
Your nipples are tender to the touch, you are bloated and feel tired? Hmm maybe pick up an AI or dial back your testosterone .
Or you can post comments like:
the system in the U.S is money orientated , the more shite they can put you on the more money they will make from you or your insurance company, some of the protocols ppl have been put on from day 1 ive seen in here would be classed as malpractice in the EU.
And follow it up with
if i think at some point in the future i actually need it i might give it a go, but this would have to be without my consultants help as above its not used here as a matter of routine.
Do you see the irony in your post?Last edited by GFA; 04-07-2012 at 12:53 PM.
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04-07-2012, 12:52 PM #9Associate Member
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dupe
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04-07-2012, 01:21 PM #10HRT
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TRT=HPTA Suppression.
hCG is known by many as a Neurohormone.
While mostly used by man who are secondary hypogonadal it can be used for primary as well for the neuro effects.
It's a wonderful peptide!
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04-07-2012, 02:17 PM #11Junior Member
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04-07-2012, 02:24 PM #12Junior Member
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btw, can't use your poll - my answer would be, "waiting to see how test alone works before adding anything else".
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04-07-2012, 03:39 PM #13
Sure Freshmaker, it's all in my profile, but I am happy to post my stats. I'm a 47 y/o Male, 6ft 1. 255lbs. Secondary Hypogonadal, diagnosed about 5 months ago. I've been feeling like crap for a few years now, depressed, low sex drive, getting weaker, etc. When I started researching low T, I found I had every single symptom. I couldn't believe it! It's taken a while to get dialed in, mostly due to my over eagerness and taking to much T. But the reason for starting this thread was my enthusiasm for how the HCG made me feel. I can't even really explain very well, but as I've read here, it's a very real "feeling of well being" which sounds kinda hoky, but is very real. I just feel happy, and in a great mood this past few days, unlike anything I've felt for years.
I know everybody is different and may react in various ways, but I for one am happy I tried it. Oh yeah, and I had to source it and pay for it on my own as no Drs could be talked into providing it to me.
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04-07-2012, 03:43 PM #14
That's cool, I did the same thing. I was pretty comfortable with where I was at with the T results. It was time for me to try. I had a great result, and I was just wanting to get a consensus in one place instead of searching and reading multiple threads about the topic (which I have, over and over). It's nice to see the poll results all in one thread....
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04-07-2012, 06:32 PM #15Junior Member
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04-07-2012, 08:35 PM #18
duplicate
Last edited by socalfun64; 04-07-2012 at 10:57 PM.
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04-07-2012, 09:35 PM #19
I have a script for hcg , but haven't filled it yet.....It's so expensive here.....
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I don't use HCG and don't use anything like it but I might try it once I get my TRT dialed in...
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04-07-2012, 10:40 PM #21Associate Member
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I can vividly recall looking down at my shrinking balls and thinking whats worse? the toothache like pain or the disappointing little nuts left in the sack? HCG 3X week, problem solved and I feel great! also loved the irony in your post pugster and your honesty, great to hear different perspectives..
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04-07-2012, 10:59 PM #22
Are you guys experiencing the same "well being" feelings that I am. It's just a generalized good feeling like I haven't had in years.......
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04-08-2012, 01:55 AM #23
socalfun64 your Avatar is quite distracting. Normally I'm not a boobs man but DAMN!!! Those could be fun and goes well with the little waist. I had a GF like that LONG time ago... Good times.
You have only been on HCG for a week+? I have only been using it for about 3 weeks but not as consistency as I should, my scheduling sucks. I need to get on top of that. I have been on TRT for over 3 years and although it helped me feel better I never got the GOOD feeling like a lot of people talk about but I still would not want to go back to the way it was before.
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04-08-2012, 06:16 AM #24Associate Member
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I have a spike in libido, better sense of well being and feel my nuts grow overnight after an HCG injection. The big problem I have is cost. Its not covered by insurance and $170 a vial from CVS. Im considering getting it online from India where it is 1/10th the cost.
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04-08-2012, 02:19 PM #25
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04-23-2013, 12:23 AM #26New Member
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I agree with your peception and our medical system However, it's much better than yours. I have many Brits that I work with. We are all in O&G. We al do well in jobs and compensation. The Brits talk about how bad there helathcare is (evnthough its supposedly paid for). They would all rather have medical care in the U.S.
Why is this? You make healthcare affordable to all, even those who do not work or contribute to society. You then create a system who will fail and not hope anyone, California has been doing this for years. i get HCG precribed an much as I want.
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04-23-2013, 05:38 AM #27Member
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I used it for a while. I think it worked. I didn't notice any size difference. Then again mine were always awful
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04-23-2013, 06:41 AM #28Associate Member
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Unless you want your wife/GF to be playing with 2 little peanuts then I'd suggest you get on HCG . If your geographical location makes it hard for you to obtain a script then just order that shit online. If you have anymore excuses than All I can add is... Enjoy playing with your raisins!!!
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