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    txnhb is offline Associate Member
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    Concentration/focus with low T

    I feel most of what is shared on this forum with hypogonadism is in regards to how it affects their energy level and athletic performance. I'd like to open the forum for people to share how it affects their concentration and or focus with regards to learning something new for example.
    I know I personally feel that at times I have trouble grasping what should be a simple new concept. Especially in my Chemistry 2 class. Granted it may be a difficult subject for some in general I still feel at times I have to spend extra time and re-read things repeatedly that I should already have down.
    Some sharing would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

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    The implementation of testosterone definitely gave me better cognitive function, and a better disposition with confidence and remaining rationale at times, where in the past would have been quite stressful.

    However, the addition of cycling in pregnenolone and B-12 Methylcobalamin was like getting a dual core processor after having a single core in place. Just seem to think, react, and organize faster and more efficiently when including them.

    Chemistry ... Man, I loved Chemistry! I still have all my college text books, and damn it if I don't browse through a few once in awhile. Just find that stuff fascinating I guess. Good luck with it.

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    Trt has helped my concentration tremendously. I think more clearly and can focus on one task at a time. Oddly (to me), I also no longer need caffeine. I used to need 5 cups or more every morning. That compulsion is completely gone. I still enjoy a cup or two, but I can wait a few hours or skip it completely, whereas before it was the very first thing I did upon waking.

    Trt is the best add medication I've ever had. Incredible bonus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vetteman08
    The implementation of testosterone definitely gave me better cognitive function, and a better disposition with confidence and remaining rationale at times, where in the past would have been quite stressful.

    However, the addition of cycling in pregnenolone and B-12 Methylcobalamin was like getting a dual core processor after having a single core in place. Just seem to think, react, and organize faster and more efficiently when including them.

    Chemistry ... Man, I loved Chemistry! I still have all my college text books, and damn it if I don't browse through a few once in awhile. Just find that stuff fascinating I guess. Good luck with it.
    Vette - can u explain more about the pregnenolone and b-12? How much, how often, what form? Thanks!

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    First, take a little time to research pregnenolone ... There's plenty of information around this forum, and Googling it will give you a ton of articles. It's the top of the hormone chain, produced by cholesterol, and it plays a big part with memory and brain function. Levels decrease as we get older, so like test, it's just another hormone that you can supplement to reverse some the symptoms that start showing our age. I cycle it for 6 weeks about every 3 to 4 months. I take a compounded cream from my pharmacy at 1/2mg per day at 5% volume.

    B12 is also good IMO to cycle in, otherwise is becomes redundant. Same deal, maybe every 3 or 4 months for 6 weeks. With that, I just add 250mcg to a test injection 1x/wk. Sold, sold, sold on the methylcobablamin B12 as opposed to the cyanacoblamin. Meth is actually what's found in plants and tissues, and I get a much smoother feeling with it.

    Don't rule out your DHEA either. Best to get labs on all of it to see if you're deficient on any of it. Also, take a look at your thryoid levels and make sure all is OK there. The thyroid can do some tricky things on people and stay unanimous. BW is your friend on all of this stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vetteman08
    First, take a little time to research pregnenolone ... There's plenty of information around this forum, and Googling it will give you a ton of articles. It's the top of the hormone chain, produced by cholesterol, and it plays a big part with memory and brain function. Levels decrease as we get older, so like test, it's just another hormone that you can supplement to reverse some the symptoms that start showing our age. I cycle it for 6 weeks about every 3 to 4 months. I take a compounded cream from my pharmacy at 1/2mg per day at 5% volume.

    B12 is also good IMO to cycle in, otherwise is becomes redundant. Same deal, maybe every 3 or 4 months for 6 weeks. With that, I just add 250mcg to a test injection 1x/wk. Sold, sold, sold on the methylcobablamin B12 as opposed to the cyanacoblamin. Meth is actually what's found in plants and tissues, and I get a much smoother feeling with it.

    Don't rule out your DHEA either. Best to get labs on all of it to see if you're deficient on any of it. Also, take a look at your thryoid levels and make sure all is OK there. The thyroid can do some tricky things on people and stay unanimous. BW is your friend on all of this stuff.

    Thanks, doing the research now.
    Are orals worthwhile for pregnenolone? Sounds like no, but I see it sold as a supplement at the drugstore.
    Will check dhea on my next blood work.

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    This brain fog you speak of kinda came on slowly but got worse over time. I am in It and found i could not solve new complex problems anymore. I could still do the easy day to day stuff that took only simple root thought but anything else was out of the question. I had smoked to get through grad school and as soon as i graduated, I started cutting down and finally quit. The fog started gradually becoming overwhelming at that point. coffee helped but would wear off after an hour or so. Shortly before I started TRT, I had to go on nicotine patches to function. At 6 weeks I am still noticing improvements but already feel 95% better. I still drink some coffee but only because I enjoy it.

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    Just wanted to say thanks for the replies.

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    I would be a little less certain about the association than my colleagues above have suggested.

    The relationship between test levels and cognitive function has been studied for years, and although there does seem to be a positive correlation, it is very weak. Think of it as scatter diagram with points all over the place but with a mathematical line drawn somewhere on the plot showing a positive slope.

    There are quite a few studies showing that low levels of test in older men does seem to correlate to less neurological function, but unfortunately when you start removing all the other variables it's hard to say if there's an effect or not.

    I would tend to think of TRT as more of a long-term "protective agent" rather than a short-term "smart pill."

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    never heard of meth b12. i can barely find more than one place to get reg b12

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    So why would the fog and morning stupor go away so quickly if it were not the T?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecdysone View Post
    I would be a little less certain about the association than my colleagues above have suggested.

    The relationship between test levels and cognitive function has been studied for years, and although there does seem to be a positive correlation, it is very weak. Think of it as scatter diagram with points all over the place but with a mathematical line drawn somewhere on the plot showing a positive slope.

    There are quite a few studies showing that low levels of test in older men does seem to correlate to less neurological function, but unfortunately when you start removing all the other variables it's hard to say if there's an effect or not.

    I would tend to think of TRT as more of a long-term "protective agent" rather than a short-term "smart pill."

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    I know i have had some problems like this but only when test is extremely low. More irritable as well, can't relax, can't remember things very well. make lots of mistakes at work and things i'm doing, when test is high I rarely experience this unless I'm sick of something, or in need of a meal. But when test levels were 400 ish even on low end of free scale as well most days it wasn't bad, but 200 ish very bad.

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