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    Blood Test Results

    My friend was dosing 150mg 1X a week for 3 weeks bumped it up to 300mg the 4th week then had lab work done. How this this look. BTW he stared at Total test at 230 Free test not sure

    Total test- 1051 ng/dl (250-1100 ng/dl)

    Free test- 362.6 H (35.0-155.00 pg/ml)

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    Let your friend know that his body responds normally to testosterone treatments. Low SHBG is more than likely the culprit for the higher free T.

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    Well for starters the protocol and the blood work at 4 weeks makes no sense to me.

    The 300mg dosage at week 4 most likely blew his serum levels up and we have no idea what the first three weeks of 150 were doing to bring his levels to optimal levels.

    Additionally, at a minimum, we'd like to see 6 weeks at the very least with the same protocol to establish a base line...this can't happen with what your friend did.

    Is your "friend" under a Physicians care and one who understands TRT protocols for men?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine View Post
    Well for starters the protocol and the blood work at 4 weeks makes no sense to me.

    The 300mg dosage at week 4 most likely blew his serum levels up and we have no idea what the first three weeks of 150 were doing to bring his levels to optimal levels.

    Additionally, at a minimum, we'd like to see 6 weeks at the very least with the same protocol to establish a base line...this can't happen with what your friend did.

    Is your "friend" under a Physicians care and one who understands TRT protocols for men?
    I posted this awhile back

    Is this possible? My friend is recently put on trt for about 3 weeks now. His total test levels where 230 and was prescribed 200mg test every 3rd week. So he asked if i could help him out with some bottles of test-e. He injected 150mg of test once a week for 3 weeks so far. He took an injection around 7 days before he did blood work and his total test came back at 303 and blood was drawn late afternoon around 5pm also after he ate lunch. Dose that mean the test-e i gave him is under dosed or is it to soon to tell? Thank you

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    About a week later after i posted this he bumped it up to 300mg and then got blood done again 2days later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vetteman08 View Post
    Let your friend know that his body responds normally to testosterone treatments. Low SHBG is more than likely the culprit for the higher free T.
    Sorry could you please explain SHBG?

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    Why didn't you just put this in the original thread...very confusing.

    If I recall you gave your "friend" UG test...correct?

    If so what you gave him was most likely crap because his serum levels didn't move.

    This all should have been in the original thread...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine View Post
    Why didn't you just put this in the original thread...very confusing.

    If I recall you gave your "friend" UG test...correct?

    If so what you gave him was most likely crap because his serum levels didn't move.

    This all should have been in the original thread...
    Yes you are correct it UG test, sorry for the confusion. I figured it was underdosed so i bumped it up to 300mg then got blood work done week later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dsa8864667 View Post
    About a week later after i posted this he bumped it up to 300mg and then got blood done again 2days later.
    Not quite sure why this approach was taken. As I stated, "he" is responding normally ... Make it 400mg and he might have been at 1,400 ... The more you take the higher the score, it's all relevant.

    Quote Originally Posted by dsa8864667 View Post
    Sorry could you please explain SHBG?
    It's all in the stickies and can be Googled real easily. If your friend is serious about this then this should all be researched prior to administering the protocol. If you, your friend, or anyone will just commit 2 to 3 hours researching the stickies and other posts in this forum, you will be miles ahead than most.

    This stuff is for life!! Please INVEST a little time and for sure you will get much more in return.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dsa8864667 View Post
    Yes you are correct it UG test, sorry for the confusion. I figured it was underdosed so i bumped it up to 300mg then got blood work done week later.
    So you're the physician with your friend? I can see this is getting slippery real quick ...

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    Your absolutely rite, told my friend to go see an endo but refuse to maybe just lazy or to cheap. Im just going to tell him to do his own research i even have to inject for him christ sakes.
    Last edited by dsa8864667; 04-30-2012 at 09:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dsa8864667 View Post
    Your absolutely rite, told my friend to go see an endo but refuse to maybe just lazy or to cheap. Im just going to tell him to do his own research i even have to inject for him christ sakes.
    I know it's far fetched, but just imagine the liability consequence if something were to go sideways? Say you accidentally hit the sciatic or something worse ... That's when friends won't be friends, and the only friend will be a lawyer. Sometimes good intentions can go bad.

    Point your friend to the finding a doctor thread and hopefully he will have enough smarts to make some practical choices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dsa8864667 View Post
    Your absolutely rite, told my friend to go see an endo but refuse to maybe just lazy or to cheap. Im just going to tell him to do his own research i even have to inject for him christ sakes.
    I am going to just come out with it and say you are putting either yourself or your "friends" health and life in danger and I can't be a part of that here in any fashion...I just don't condone it...sorry.

    The questions you are asking here are novice at best and YOU are providing TRT protocol medical guidance to another human being!

    Really?

    Hell, you don't even understand the impact of SHBG on Testosterone levels and worse you are sourcing UG for this shit.

    I am off this this thread and any other thread I see you start.

    This is not why I am here.

    Peace.

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    i ,too, would only point someone in the right direction for treatment and if they didnt have the gumption to research/seek solutions themselves that would be on them

    ofcourse agree with g about starting a new thread as many know that never makes sense to me

    vette is much more patient than I and any info he gives your in good hands so best of luck to you and your friend

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