Kinda suprised with my new be #s

[kaoz123]

I'm on trt an my total test was in the 400's n free was really low like a 6 range 6-25. My shgb was really high so I started taking danazol. But for my protocol I'm taking 50mgs of prop eod which is 175 a week. I feel a little more sex drive energy is still not good. But my total test is only 675. Which I thought was low at that dose plus I started in the 400's. Also my e2 came back good at 25. What do y'all think shouldn't have been higher then 675? I want to be in the higher range to see how I feel. Should I up the dose a little?

[steroid.com 1]

Need to get SHBG down to mid to mid-lower range first and foremost.

Your Test Free assay is the most important here as you know and it's low.

You could just he a high metabolizer which happens.

With your injection protocol (which I really like) your serum levels are going to be consistent throughout the week so timing is not an issue here.

Up the dose and keep an eye on E2 and see what happens.

Remember, smaller increases over time...don't bang it!!!

[HRTstudent]

Posting your starting and current blood work can help.

Otherwise.... 675 total T is not a bad number at all. That's the goal for most people and you need to remember that (you should at least) test for your trough T levels. So if you did that blood work before your next shot then you're probably very high normal or just above normal range a large portion of the time.

Most importantly, how do you feel?

[Blergs]

DUDE! there are much LESS toxic ways to lower SHBG even proviron would come before this in my op.
there are herbs also out there that will help.
Danazol is 17aa methylated. its liver toxic!
kind of like you taking dbol ed for months on end.
I see people posting more and more laitly on Danazol, I wonder if they are pushing that hard right now!?

here is a snipit of info:

1S,2R,13R,14S,17R,18S)-17-ethynyl-2,18-dimethyl-7-oxa-6-azapentacyclo[11.7.0.02,10.04,8.014,18]icosa-4(8),5,9-trien-17-ol

danazol is metabolized by the liver, it cannot be used by patients with liver disease, and in patients receiving long-term therapy, liver function must be monitored on a periodic basis. Some patients who use danazol experience weight gain and fluid retention. Due to these limitations, danazol is seldom prescribed continuously beyond six months.

The use of danazol for endometriosis has been linked to an increased risk of ovarian cancer.[6] Patients with endometriosis have specific risk factors for ovarian cancer so this may not apply for other uses.

Danazol has, like most other androgenic agents, been linked with an increased risk of liver tumors. These are generally benign.[7]

[kaoz123]

Like I said I feel better in sex drive but still tired alot. I've been running danazol for shgb. There's guys that walk around with higher test then 675 naturally. If I'm going to be prescribed test n be spending my money I feel like I want to be on the high side. I atleast want to see how I feel in the 1,000 -1200 range. What do u guys think I should up it to get there. If there's no differents in feeling I'll go back down to 50 mgs eod. Alot of guys have lower natural test then me n take 200 mgs of cyp n there like 1500. That's why I'm surprised about my results.

[kaoz123]

I only ran it for a month. I didt care they said it was safe to run for months. I wouldn't run any oral more then 6 weeks. I wish I could get proviron prescribed to me I would.

[bass]

like GDevine said, total is not as important as the free, this is why you feel tired, you're running out of fuel. lowering your SHBG will increase your free T and you should feel better. remember the goal here is to be healthy not jacked! believe it or not even on 30 mgs eod i been packing on weight and losing fat, you can accomplish the same as if you blast but it takes little longer, but also keeps you healthy.

[kaoz123]

I want to just feel good. If I wanted to be jacked I would just run cycles. My shgb should be lower since I ran the danazol. Injecting test should raise your free test too. I shouldve tested my shgb.

[Brohim]

well what is your free test? Did you have that tested? You can have total test in midrange and free test be at the top.

[kaoz123]

Free wasn't tested this time. Just wanted to see where my total was n e2. Can having higher shgb levels keep my total test lower?

[bass]

Free wasn't tested this time. Just wanted to see where my total was n e2. Can having higher shgb levels keep my total test lower?

yes.

[kaoz123]

I still have danazol maybe should start taking them to see if it helps

[kaoz123]

Free wasn't tested this time. Just wanted to see where my total was n e2. Can having higher shgb levels keep my total test lower?

[kelkel]

Lose the Danazol. Look into Avenacosides and Stinging Nettle Root as supplements that will lower your SHBG. Also consider supplementing with Vit D as no doubt your low like most everyone else (unless you already do take it.) Vit D will also help to lower SHBG. Upping your Test will compress the shbg and bring your levels up but that's not fixing the elevated shbg. Do a little research on the supp's above.

Oh, even with a script for Proviron you won't be able to get it in the U.S. I've got a script. I can't get it. Love to find it.

Buehler, Buehler?

[steroid.com 1]

You need to get a handel on your Bio-Available assay...this will tell you what you want to know.

Free T is good, but Bio-Available is the truth.

[kaoz123]

Where can I get the avencocides can't really find it?

[kelkel]

Look up "The Vitamin Shoppe" and search "Avena Sativa" or "Stinging Nettle Root" and you'll get them.

[Mr Bill]

Look up "The Vitamin Shoppe" and search "Avena Sativa" or "Stinging Nettle Root" and you'll get them.

How do you dose the Stinging Nettle Root? Do you dose according to your shgb numbers? Do you take it forever or just until your numers come down?

[kelkel]

I'm taking it per directions on the bottle. I also added vitamin D. I will be testing those levels soon to see if there are changes. Forever? Don't know that answer but it sure would be nice to say no. Only BW will tell.