TRT question.

[Natural selection]

Hello im a 35 year old male.

before i started cycling 7 years ago i had a few blood works done. i was just above the low end of the normal test level. After each cycle i have returned to this same number give or take a small increase or decrease 6 weeks after my pct is finished. This has been the same old story twice a year for 7 of teh years, I function ok, i do like drive and feel a bit down and now i think at 35 maybe get on the trt train.

1.) is there treatment (ie serten testosterone that make it easier to come off and try to recover if say in 5 years my wife wants a kid which now she does not?

2.) injection vs topical is there a clear winner?

3.) overly long ester once a month shots vs weekly dose. Does this come down to preference of personal pinning frequency?

4.) human grade scripts, is there a "must have" drug i should try and get? i understand there are many choices for trt , if there was a best of .. what would it be?

5.) will endo's promote anything to drop estrogen levels, if e2 are coming back high?

6.) does the yearly trt cruise for a lack of a better word jack up BP and cholestrol to the degree i need to keep a close look at it?

7.) lastly if i decide to run 2-3 cycles a year. is there anything different i need to be aware of since i wont be running pct? I know my cholesterol will sky rocket.

8.) p.s is there ant trt compounds that do not mix well with ugl gear,(ieadding bleach and ammonia together?

excited to find out more!!

[steroid.com 1]

You're in the wrong forum IMO.

Probably better for the guys in the steroid board but a couple of guys here may be able to help you.

[Natural selection]

oops maybe a mod can move this for me please?

[Natural selection]

i tried posting this in the steroid forum and they said to post there here, am i missing something.. this is a merry go round lol. Is this not the trt sub forum?

[steroid.com 1]

Yea, it's because it's sort of a hybrid post.

There are few guys here who can help.

Let's see where I can help:
1.) is there treatment (ie serten testosterone that make it easier to come off and try to recover if say in 5 years my wife wants a kid which now she does not?
HPTA suppression is HPTA suppression no matter the type of Testosterone your are taking. What's more important, in my opinion, is that you will want to keep your testicles functioning so adding hCG to your protocol -and especially if you want kids- is a must...and it also makes restarting much easier.

2.) injection vs topical is there a clear winner?
No. Both have upsides and downsides. That being said, we normally see men who start out on a gel or cream migrate to injections do to poor absorption or other things like elevated levels of DHT. Dr. John Crisler, a noted TRT Physician, believes gel/cream with 100iu of hCG daily is the best protocol for men.


3.) overly long ester once a month shots vs weekly dose. Does this come down to preference of personal pinning frequency?
It is generally believed that two IM injections a week presents the best injection protocol (but there are no studies to prove it). Additionally, smaller doses injected more frequently SQ may present an even better option as there is less pain and it's believed the esters are cleaved at a lower rate than IM providing a more consistent serum level. You really need to know half life to best understand injection frequency.

5.) will endo's promote anything to drop estrogen levels, if e2 are coming back high?
Only those who are trained correctly that's why it critical to interview and find the right Doctor...see the sticky on how to find one kel did an excellent job on that one!

6.) does the yearly trt cruise for a lack of a better word jack up BP and cholestrol to the degree i need to keep a close look at it?
If your serum levels are at physiological levels it should not present a problem. Maybe some else can add to this one...

There are a few I didn't answer as I think some of the other members are better equipped with the right responses.

Read/study the stickies at the top of the forum they will help you a lot!

Hope this helps my friend!

gd

[Vettester]

On question #6 ... Consider donating blood, which will have many benefits. HDL & LDL can sometimes be negatively impacted, just best to run labs and see where you sit during this period. One supplement you can't get enough of is EFA's ... Keep em on the shelf.

[kelkel]

4.) human grade scripts, is there a "must have" drug i should try and get? i understand there are many choices for trt , if there was a best of .. what would it be?

Injections are usually cyp or enanth. Nebido if your across the pond as some members here swear by it. Long ester and only about 4 shots a year. No real secrets here.

7.) lastly if i decide to run 2-3 cycles a year. is there anything different i need to be aware of since i wont be running pct? I know my cholesterol will sky rocket.

Nope. Just go back to your trt dosage.

8.) p.s is there ant trt compounds that do not mix well with ugl gear,(ieadding bleach and ammonia together?

If it's quality ugl then you have no issues to my knowledge

[Natural selection]

thanks everyone great info and advise, been busy researching and reading and have come up with the same info more or less, and i learned to just drop my trt while on a cycle not try and mix the two. common sense i guess

thanks

[JD250]

thanks everyone great info and advise, been busy researching and reading and have come up with the same info more or less, and i learned to just drop my trt while on a cycle not try and mix the two. common sense i guess

thanks

That could be a legit statement but depending on what your cycle or "blast" consists of you can keep right on with your TRT protocol, many run higher test levels during any blast so it's a non issue but as an example you could add small doses of some compounds to your protocol and be fine. No need for PCT when your on TRT........hope all works out well, keep us posted on what you do and how it works.

[Natural selection]

im gonna spend the next few weeks, interviewing the few endos around sydney. but i have to pay per visit wich is expensive. im torn towards wasting my time with a quack or self medicating and running blood work every 2-3 months if its as simple as doing 200mg a week and running a very low low ai that would sound to easy.

i know from my years of gear use. i cant stay on letro or stane 365 days a year even at low dosages. so not sure how to control my e2 levels year round.